Lanarks Yeo?

[Alex Rice]

Hi All
This badge belongs to a friend of mine, I think it is Lanarkshire Yeo? I don't like the footed lugs and think it may be a repro, but can anybody confirm yes or no please?
Thanks, cheers,
Alex

[Alex Rice]

No opinions?

[denis pannett]

I do not think I like it as it has very different wings from my version amongst other things and both legs are at a very bent down position.
Denis

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by denis pannett

I do not think I like it as it has very different wings from my version amongst other things and both legs are at a very bent down position.
Denis

Do you mean the composition of the feathers?

If so that is because it’s the later pattern introduced post WW2 without a scroll. Post WW2 and into the early 1950s there was an effort to make other ranks and officers Yeomanry badges a bit more uniform.

Officers badges being die cast with the blackened bird with gilded head, feet and crown. That said I have seen several die cast LY’s without a finish and showing a lot of wear from polishing.

You do also find the earlier type with carefully scroll removed, presumably these were existing stock that were adapted to match the new pattern.

[denis pannett]

Here are two of mine for comparison. The small one has had extra brazing to strengthen the crown and not from a broken slider. Denis

[Luke H]

I believe the second scroll-less badge you show is a collar.

The modified cap badges I’d seen, included one in Keith Hook’s collection, had sliders.

[denis pannett]

Originally Posted by Luke H

I believe the second scroll-less badge you show is a collar.

The modified cap badges I’d seen, included one in Keith Hook’s collection, had sliders.

Could well be Luke but were the cap and collars not the same with perhaps some caps with lugs?

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by denis pannett

Could well be Luke but were the cap and collars not the same with perhaps some caps with lugs?

Sorry I’m a bit confused Denis.

You can see in the pic above the collars being worn lack scrolls. The cap badges had the scroll.

There are some cap badges with the scrolls on 4 (long) loops, the relevance of these even Keith Hook doesn’t know. My gut feeling is perhaps a pouch badge or similar.

Later post WW2 the cap badge design changed to the badge shown in the op. As mentioned the feathers are different in the new patter and look more Egyptian-like (to my eyes anyway).

[dubaiguy]

Hi Luke
Do you have your KK handy? Have a squint at KK 2312. He writes:
2) as above (meaning 1430 with scroll)
but without the title scroll. In gilding metal (Fig 2312). Sealed 9th April 1953.

As per Denis' badge and also the collar I thought.
Mark

[dubaiguy]

I'd assumed for my yeomanry collection that the post 1953 Lanarkshire Yeomanry cap badge was a similar case to the Bedfordshire Yeomanry, in that the cap badge was for all intents and purposes the same as the collar.

Makes it difficult to know what you have unless it categorically has a slider and then you can definitely put it in the cap badge box.

I guess it's not then and I need to find one with Egyptian feathers?................... What sayest thou,
Mark

[dubaiguy]

Just dug around in the Scottish Yeomanry tin. Could this then be the cap badge on lugs or is it a collar? The feathers would do a pharaoh proud - mibi?
Mark

[Luke H]

Sorry I don’t have either KK handy. Do you have a picture?

Originally Posted by dubaiguy

Just dug around in the Scottish Yeomanry tin. Could this then be the cap badge on lugs or is it a collar? The feathers would do a pharaoh proud - mibi?
Mark

I would say it’s far more likely to be a cap badge. Am no uniform guru but by the 1950s I’d imagine they were only wearing collars with full dress uniform.

[dubaiguy]

Thanks Luke.
It's a poor picture in my KK but it does appear to conform to the middle photo in your triptych in wing shape and feather arrangement.
all the best Luke.
Mark

[Luke H]

The toes are also a good indication more club-like on the scroll badge v’s quite individual and pointed on the later cap badge.

[Alex Rice]

Hi All
I am sure the badge I posted has had both legs bent at some stage, so not in the correct position. I also think it is the same die as the one posted by Dubai Guy, which also has footed lugs. I don't have access to books at the moment but if this is a later pattern, then it probably should have a slider?
Thanks, cheers,
Alex