ID on large w/m rose cap badge on slider

[Alan O]

Any ideas on this one?


it is big as shown by the RAC badge next to it.

[Luke H]

No idea sorry but it looks very attractive. If moving it on please let me know.

[Alan O]

I was wondering if it could be a Hampshire Cadets item but those should likely be in g/m.

The slider is original but there look like brasing spots for lugs were added.. I have seen this one other badges such as the RTC. I did wonder if it was an arm badge die converted for a cap badge but can't find another example at the moment.

[Luke H]

I’d say it clearly looks like a factory conversion so they changed their mind shortly after it was made in all likelihood regards to fixings.

A very aesthetically pleasing badge whatever it is.

[manchesters]

I would guess at one of the WWI OCTU’s but don’t know which

Regards

[Alan O]

Thanks. I did wonder if it could one of the vaguer WW1 units. I hope some one has an old Bosleys' catalogue with it in!

[Ex Supt Clk RAOC]

Possibly Yorkshire Hussars related.
They wore such a rose on their dress pouch belt.
Also worn by Officers in 1895 Undress Uniform on the Field Cap. A scarlet canoe-shaped field service cap with blue flaps and piped silver in all the seams: the badge in silver, the Princ of Wales's plumes above the York Rose.

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Ex Supt Clk RAOC

Possibly Yorkshire Hussars related.
They wore such a rose on their dress pouch belt.
Also worn by Officers in 1895 Undress Uniform on the Field Cap. A scarlet canoe-shaped field service cap with blue flaps and piped silver in all the seams: the badge in silver, the Princ of Wales's plumes above the York Rose.

Would that be the Torin cap ?
Andy

[Home Guard]

A wild hare maybe, but could it be related to one of the Minden regiments, as they were known for picking roses and putting them in their hats as they advanced on the French?

Terry

[Sonofacqms]

Could this be a first pattern 49th Division formation sign, mine has loops, but your badge could have had a slider as a trial fitting.

Rob

[Alan O]

There are marks for lugs so I doubt it especially as the slider would make it a hat badge.

[Ex Supt Clk RAOC]

Andy
I am no expert on uniform items, but after looking at Google, it appears that the terms Torin Cap and Field Service Cap are applied to the same item. I could be wrong and i'm sure someone on the Forum with more knowledge of headwear will advise. In my period of service (1972 - 1995) they were referred to as 'Side Caps'.
Steve

[Alan O]

They are similair but different in construction. The FSC has the fold out sides (watch Dad's Army to see them worn down in the occasional episode) where as the Torin doe not have this and is more curved in shape.

[Alan O]

It has been suggested that it could be Yorkshire or Lancashire Yeomanry related but I still can't find a positive ID. I wondered if it was lugged arm badge conversion but cannot find one that matches.