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Old 28-07-20, 05:02 PM
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I wonder if anyone can assist with this query.

What is the criteria for deciding which pattern of Victorian Crown surmounts a badge?. Apart from the multitude of varieties of the QVC as we know it, there is also an Imperial flat-topped Crown, worn by various units during Victoria's reign.

Dress Regulations blandly mention, in both cases, "a Crown".

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Nobody knows?

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Well, no expert here, but I as far as I am aware, there was no specific criteria.
The most common "QVC" that we refer to was the default basic crown.
The flat topped crown, sometimes erroneously referred to as the Indian crown etc. was actually another version of the Imperial crown that was worn by a few regiments (DLI, 21st L etc.) and was utilized by many other regiments for letter head, mess decoration and so on, but apparently without specification. Just regimental choice I presume.

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It has been suggested that the flat topped crown was worn by units which attended one or other of the Delhi Durbars but I believe that the regiments that attended and those that wore the crown don't tally.
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It has been suggested that the flat topped crown was worn by units which attended one or other of the Delhi Durbars but I believe that the regiments that attended and those that wore the crown don't tally.
Apparently nothing to do with the Durbars. I made this inquiry not long ago and was corrected. One of our members explained this crown very well and I can't recall the exact term for it.

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Thanks, gentlemen, for your contributions.
A case in point pertinent to my query is K&K description of a pair of 31 st Ft glengarry badges (Nos. 474, 475). No. 474 has the normal QVC, while No. 475 has the flat-topped crown. Description for former: "...surmounted by a Victorian crown" and the latter:"...surmounted by a Victorian crown". Bizarre!

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I may be digressing here but I think that offering any information is productive. Re the flat-topped crown, Churchill mentions that in 1874 the Crown was introduced as a collar badge for certain regiments and was referred to in Army Orders as an Imperial crown (Pattern 9386 sealed 30 June 1874, and referred in the text as "A flat-topped Imperial crown". This is illustrated as Fig 333, for 11th Foot, and worn 1874-78 by ORs. So much for the nomenclature.

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