Badges for ID please

[Chacal]

Evening gents

Earlier today I received a package of badges from an old friend including these three which I have been unable to precisely identify:

“MT” patch - this appears to be a WRNS trade badge, but those I see online are ‘tombstone’ shaped, rather than circular?

NAAFI brooch - I remember the NAAFI girls wearing something like this when on duty, is there any significance in the RAF-style bird?

The third looks like a fashion pin trying to imitate a WWII German helmet flash - the fitting on the reverse doesn’t look study enough to go on a uniform.

As always any comments/opinions will be greatly appreciated and will help me to decide if these should go in the swap or scrap boxes

Thanks for looking

Graham

[manchesters]

Hello,

The WRENS 'MT' badge was worn within a star not a circle from 1941 -1951 and was for a Despatch Rider and a Motor Driver.

Maybe this is for a date after that?

regards

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by Chacal

“MT” patch - this appears to be a WRNS trade badge, but those I see online are ‘tombstone’ shaped, rather than circular?

Worn from 1951 (Motor Transport Driver).

As to when it ceased to be worn, I don't know. Perhaps with the integration of the WRNS into the RN in 1993?

I have a couple of circular WRNS trade badges and as you have noted some "tombstone" as well.

All the best,

Andy

[Chacal]

Thank you Simon and Andy, appreciate both your replies. As a former 'crab' RN badges have always been a mystery to me .

Thanks again

Graham

[conservator]

Graham,
The WRNS badge is, as previously stated, for a Motor Transport Driver and replaced the previous badge (MT within a star, also previously mentioned) in 1952. From 1952 to 1971, the central design was used for Leading Wrens and below; from 1971 onwards it was used for Chief Petty Officer Wrens and below. Your badge is the basic badge used for personnel below able rate. The design continued to be used after the disbandment of the WRNS, and was issued in red on blue, Gold on blue and blue on white, certainly up to 1988. It is mentioned in BR81, 1984 Edition, Change 5 - Dec 1986, and had not been amended out by Change 7 in 1988. In RAF speak, Change = Amendment List (AL). It is not shown in BR81, 1999 Edition. Regarding the shape, it would have been issued as a tombstone shape with the vocab number attached, forming a top right corner, your badge has been trimmed at some time. Quite often, Wren recipients shaped their badges then used blanket stitching around the edge prior to them being attached to uniforms.

The NAAFI brooch was worn on the brown and orange work attire by female NAAFI staff in bars, restaurants and shops; the eagle being specific for staff on RAF stations.
They were still worn in the 1980s but became obsolete when NAAFI change their logo.
Regards,
George

[Chacal]

Hi George

Many thanks for such a comprehensive answer regarding the WRNS and particularly the NAAFI badge, greatly appreciated. I’m probably not the only collector who wishes they’d paid more attention to badges outside of their field of interest during their service time .

Have a great weekend

Graham

[engr9266]

Quote-The NAAFI brooch was worn on the brown and orange work attire by female NAAFI staff in bars, restaurants and shops; the eagle being specific for staff on RAF stations.
They were still worn in the 1980s but became obsolete when NAAFI change their logo-quote.

Although I do not doubt this, these brooches were made with a queens crown on top as NAAFI staff could be moved to any area Navy, Army or RAF.
My thinking is that the owner when posted/started work(dependant) at a RAF NAAFI establishment choose to have the brooch modified.
This is of course my theory.

Jerry.