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Old 07-01-21, 04:37 PM
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Well, that was certainly my own belief, I have certainly encountered various gilding metal badges that do appear to have been worn too, although, they are few, but, I was puzzled after reading this thread, which is why I asked for clarification.


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The Woodward marked badges are certainly genuine and period.
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Old 07-01-21, 05:47 PM
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Okay, so are both the example KK1448 and those gilding metal Woodward marked examples completely spurious then?
To clarity when i said both: the Herts Yeo never wore the badge design in post 1 in brass and the badges in post 1 are all 3 fakes.

The only design they wore was a completely different design of Hart with short antlers as shown in the photo from WW2. This was a brass Hart but of different proportions.
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The badge on the beret in the photo has a different and deeper water base. Not to be confused with the fake badges in question. Almost looks like a collar badge?

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Both the collar and the cap are the same size.
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Old 07-01-21, 05:57 PM
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Great War period showing the badge being worn.
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Old 07-01-21, 06:20 PM
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Okay, all now becomes clear!

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To clarity when i said both: the Herts Yeo never wore the badge design in post 1 in brass and the badges in post 1 are all 3 fakes.

The only design they wore was a completely different design of Hart with short antlers as shown in the photo from WW2. This was a brass Hart but of different proportions.
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Old 10-01-21, 11:41 AM
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It was a particularly interesting regiment, a few of it's rank and file even ended up out upon the wild frontier with the 21st Lancers.


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Great War period showing the badge being worn.
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These are all fakes made in huge numbers. The design is one based on a post war officers' badge design. The brass ones are all (and I mean all) fakes.

I've never seen an original gilt or GM version of this badge.
Here's my example of the officer's S/P pattern badge mentioned.
It's been professionally converted to a brooched type fixing,but had 2 lugs originally.
It's Gaunt marked,along with the collar badges,and also came with 2 complete sets of S/P buttons,and 2 surface worn earlier sets of gilt buttons.

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I've never seen an original gilt or GM version of this badge.
Here's my example of the officer's S/P pattern badge mentioned.
It's been professionally converted to a brooched type fixing,but had 2 lugs originally.
It's Gaunt marked,along with the collar badges,and also came with 2 complete sets of S/P buttons,and 2 surface worn earlier sets of gilt buttons.

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That cap badge did not go with those collar badges. The cap badge was worn by officers of the Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire Yeomanry, Royal Artillery, post-1961. Those collar badges are much older.
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Old 16-01-21, 01:36 AM
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That cap badge did not go with those collar badges. The cap badge was worn by officers of the Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire Yeomanry, Royal Artillery, post-1961. Those collar badges are much older.
More than likely. However,they did come as a job lot,older and later pattern buttons included,and were possibly owned by the same family.
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