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Old 21-12-13, 03:33 PM
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I am posting a button which has had me baffled for quite some time. It came from UK along with a selection of similar detector-found buttons, mainly Victorian military. Their relic condition led me to surmise that they could have originated from a burn-heap.
The attached button (face only, unfortunately) has the numeral '16', however in a style that seems to me to be reminiscent of Imperial German insignia numerals.
I am hoping that the Forum's button experts may be able to confirm whether it is an old British military button or not. Condition is not too good and this is reflected by the scan. However, I can say that the '1' is rather ornate and the flourish at lower left makes it look more like a 'J'. Copper alloy, 24mm.

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Old 21-12-13, 06:07 PM
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Is there any trace of a dot behind the 6?
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Old 21-12-13, 06:12 PM
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Going simply from the style of the numbers and the absence of a crown, I would say that this is not a British military button. It is continental in my view but whether German, French or Belgian is beyond me

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Is there any trace of a dot behind the 6?
No trace of a dot

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Old 21-12-13, 10:27 PM
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I beg to differ, Roger. There are many examples of numbered British regimental buttons without a Crown. However, I grant that the absence of a crown coupled with the style of lettering may give rise to a slant in favour of a non-British button. Then again, early numerals (British) did tend to have a distinctly different style to what we are normally accustomed.

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Old 21-12-13, 10:49 PM
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Btns, a very good attempt. After a few moments I went to check and believe the following prompted you (positioning of a dot after certain Austro-Hungarian regimental buttons).

The grey metal Austro-Hungarian WW1 16th Regiment button is very, very close but there are a couple of inconsistencies of design as illustrated in my scans, viz. (a) inclusion of a dot, (b) shape of the '1' - mine has no serif at lower right, and (c) rimmed (mine is rimless).

To be fair, my original scanned image of the detector find button is nigh impossible to define with any degree of clarity, and I thank members for giving their input, considering this.

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Old 21-12-13, 10:58 PM
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Your button is from the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg), c.1815-1829.
In Dutch: "16e Afdeeling Infanterie" (16th division infantry). It was either a woodback/catgut button or an ironback.
After the Belgian independence in 1830 it became the Belgian Yper Regiment and it was renumbered 8.

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Your button is from the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Holland, Belgium, Luxemburg), c.1815-1829.
In Dutch: "16e Afdeeling Infanterie". It was either a woodback/catgut button or an ironback.
After the Belgian independence in 1830 it became the Yper Regiment.
Thanks for that, btns. Would never have guessed.

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