Cavalry badges re-submitted for comments due to system problem yesterday - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Paddy · #1 10-03-09, 07:27 PM

Hi All (thread re-submitted as the thumbnails were lost from the system yesterday)

Continuing to sort out my dodgy from genuine items and have added pics of another 4 cavalry badges for your consideration/comments as to their authenticity.

13th Hussars badge is very thin but well struck (I have heard mention of some badges being struck thinner than usual as an economy measure, is this fact or fantasy and if fact could this badges be one of them).

7th DG badge feels right and the only concern I have is with the rather crude slider although there is no sign of it ever having been replaced.

1st LG badge, genuine or copy, if genuine what is the reason for the long slider.

RHG badge was "painted" brown when I got it, someone's crude attempt at making it look like bronze, so I have removed the thick brown paint. I have seen it mentioned in Gaylor's book that he had seen a version of this badge in polished brass. Makers mark on rear is A&W Ltd Bham.

Many thanks in advance

Paddy

fougasse1940 · #2 13-03-09, 12:00 PM

Hi Paddy,

Makers Mark A&W Ltd B'HAM is new to me and new to the Makers Marks list here on the forum.
Any info on them?

Rgds,
fougasse1940.

cbuehler · #3 13-03-09, 05:38 PM

I guess the replies were lost? Anyway, for me the 1st LG and 13th H are not good. The 7 DG is certainly nice. The RHG in my opinion was originally a bronzed OSD badge that has been polished out. It is stated that when it was obtained it was covered in paint. Perhaps it was a poor attempt to restore the finish. Depending of course on the maker, some OSD finishes were very faint or light and it could have had some wear to it in addition to this which prompted the paint attempt. At any rate, there were of course gilded finish officer's badges, but this example appears show no gilding traces and the blades are usually, but of course not always, found on OSD.

CB

LONGSHANKS · #4 30-06-10, 03:43 PM

Hi team, I was reading this thread looking for info and examples of the 13th. I see the comment above that the piece isn't a good one that is shown with the number 13 behind scroll. I have located a solid version; JR Gaunt on back. I have posted it here. Any opinions before I move on it. Also, while I was typing I thought I'd ask also on the Guards one, any opinions on this one too.

Thanks

Mike · #5 30-06-10, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LONGSHANKS

Hi team, I was reading this thread looking for info and examples of the 13th. I see the comment above that the piece isn't a good one that is shown with the number 13 behind scroll. I have located a solid version; JR Gaunt on back. I have posted it here. Any opinions before I move on it. Also, while I was typing I thought I'd ask also on the Guards one, any opinions on this one too.

Thanks

Hi Longshanks, generally the Household Cavalry badges of this design tend to get the thumbs down if they have poor voiding around the centre "V" or "VI", this one you have shown has that poor voiding unfortunately.

LONGSHANKS · #6 30-06-10, 05:28 PM

Thanks Mike, I'll leave it alone then. It makes me doubt the 13th too as it's from the same seller. Anybody got an opinion on the 13th one shown.

GriffMJ · #7 30-06-10, 05:35 PM

I like it

..... the 13th. Looks like a good pukka c1914..... there is a good home for it here if you dont like it

LONGSHANKS · #8 30-06-10, 05:53 PM

Thanks Griff, I trust your judgement; I put my offer in to the vendor. Hope to have it soon.
Thanks again
Simon.

Keith Blakeman · #9 30-06-10, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

Hi Paddy,

Makers Mark A&W Ltd B'HAM is new to me and new to the Makers Marks list here on the forum.
Any info on them?

Rgds,
fougasse1940.

Armstong & Whitfield (?) I think.

fougasse1940 · #10 01-07-10, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

Armstong & Whitfield (?) I think.

Thanks for your reaction, are you sure it is Armstong and not Armstrong?

Rgds,
fougasse1940.

Keith Blakeman · #11 01-07-10, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

Thanks for your reaction, are you sure it is Armstong and not Armstrong?

Rgds,
fougsse1940.

Is the second Armstrong with a W?

I'm sure I've had buttons in the past stamped Armstrong & Whitfield.

fougasse1940 · #12 01-07-10, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Blakeman

Is the second Armstrong with a W?

I'm sure I've had buttons in the past stamped Armstrong & Whitfield.

Yes, it is spelled with a silent W. Thanks though.

Rgds,
fougasse1940.

dubaiguy · #13 06-01-22, 08:03 PM

Reopening this old thread regarding Armstrong and Whitfield, is the 'brown painted' Royal Horse Guards badge the only badge type that has turned up since 2009 carrying the A & W Ltd makers mark? Anybody seen any different badges out there with the same mark?

Mark