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Old 09-04-09, 06:39 PM
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Hi Bill....I crosschecked that photo and the date is correct...It was taken during a "B" coy orders group just before the Regt left Sicily for the Italy Invasion.The wear of the beret was common, with the exception of Galloway who was rarely photographed out of his ubiquitis Forage cap,among all OFFICERS from the invasion of Sicily on.I don;t think they were issue items though as I have a wartime RCR officers beret and it is an English made Burberry private purchase item of high quality.I,m assuming the officers bought these themselves.Here is a shot of DCO Billy Pope and Col Crowe taken only days before their deaths in July 1943 in Sicily.Billy was killed a day or so later(July18/43) by machine gun fire while he fired Piat bombs he forgot to arm at a MkIV, or so the story goes and Col Crowe killed with his 2 signallers while on patrol.(July 24 /43).There are many photos showing the officers of The RCR in Sicily wearing berets.Check out the title on Col Crowe(left in the photo and tell me what you think. 2nd type?
Thanks Dwayne for that info...I will find the clipping you sent me...wonderful work there on your part.Nice to finally know that these 2nd type flashes were worn.Now we need to decide what actual types of these slanted 2nd patterns are wartime and which aren't.looks like Dwayne and Bill have good examples in hand.Also like Bill says,why and when were they made?I'm not sure there was a definative change,as photos show both being worn and it appears the 1st type continued to be manufactured for the duration of the war.Perhaps different makers and Canadian made versus English patterns?Also there is the IODE angle again...like Bill says ,much to learn....thanks guys..M.
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Old 09-04-09, 06:47 PM
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I,m just looking through some bags of stuff and it now strikes me that I,ve literally given away bags of these 2nd types without a second thought.I wonder how many of them were actual WW2 titles?...silly me
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There are at least 2 different 2nd pattern titles that were worn in during the war. As mentionned earlier, I have a BD and pair of brassards ...both war time..BD dated 42. I spent time searching for a single title to match up to the uniform ones and found one. You will see that the titles on the BD and the brassards do differ...take a look at the "G" in regiment.

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Old 12-04-09, 08:08 PM
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Dwayne....What does the back look like on the flash on the right???
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Old 12-04-09, 08:54 PM
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The tails vs no tails has been the focus of the thread, but what about the sloped Y vs the straight Y. Dwayne has illustrated three flashes with the straight Y. However, these flashes are the diagonal edged, and not the tail type. Does anyone have an opinion on the claim that the tail flashes with the straight Y (not sloped) are repro?
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Old 13-04-09, 12:10 AM
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...is similar to some Lake Superior ones I've seen...

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Here are two examples of RCR shoulder flashes .. the upper (with the red 1st Canadian Div patch ) was worn by my father in Sicily/Italy fwiw ... not sure of the period of the lower shoulder flash as it was with others in the same trunk. RCR Shoulder Flash.jpg

The lower is embroidered - it appears that the upper was dyed fwiw.

Does anybody know what colour beret was worn by RCR officers in Sicily?
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Old 28-11-12, 10:13 PM
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Hi Praysner, the top title is a printed example, and the bottom is the later embroidered pattern.
The beret was the standard khaki colour.
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Thanks Bill A. - much delayed answer and my appreciation - I was able to assemble a complete uniform and provide various clothing items for others that have been used to dress mannikins in a Canadian Infantry museum display in Sicily. One is representative of an RCR Pl Comdr (my father) - he had reverted from Captain to Lt in order to land with his Regiment at Pachino in 1943. His second wartime "landing" in Europe - his first was Brest.
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