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Old 20-08-18, 11:54 AM
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Default Can you identify these Officers & /or statley home?

Hi, Can anyone help?
I've two unknown senior officers and an entrance to a statley home to ID. I'm more hopeful of the entrance moulding as I know I'd probably recognise any Statley home I'd visited.

The officers may both be Lt.Colonels. The one wearing a Cap has General Service coat of arms insignia and no Sam Browne. The Beret wearing officer has a small Light Infantry type cord device on his beret.

It is from a large group photo with mixed capbadges and sexes and I have no idea who, what or where.

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Old 20-08-18, 11:58 AM
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The ATS are wearing the RA or RE grenade as a breast badge, similar insignia possibly worn by at least one man in his FSC.
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Old 20-08-18, 12:04 PM
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The officer wearing the beret - as viewed on my phone the image appears to have "LONDON" and another line of lettering embossed in the area of his beret and above.
A ghost of a postmark?
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Old 20-08-18, 12:23 PM
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A ghost of a postmark?
Definitely at least two ghosts, centre right.

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Old 20-08-18, 04:31 PM
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The picture is ink stamped Panora Ltd. London W??? but I cannot see an overstamp on the Officer on the original.
There's lots of RA attached women but many more with other insignia.
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Old 20-08-18, 04:52 PM
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I think the officer in the beret may be wearing grenade collars and possibly a RNF or similar design cap badge, the gilt showing dark and the silver design on the ball showing bright.
Then again I look at that beret and wonder if there's a toorie on top. Nice little mystery.

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Old 20-08-18, 07:50 PM
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I think, based on the black beret, the cap star, the lack of collar badges and the dark shade of shirt and tie, that the officer in the beret is in a Tank Battalion of Coldstream, Scots or Irish Guards. Two NCOs in the back row are wearing formations signs - which I cannot make out. Mike
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Old 20-08-18, 08:12 PM
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If Guards the button spacing should indicate which regiment?
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Old 20-08-18, 10:33 PM
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The NCO are wearing shirt and tie, plus GS caps, so I would suggest this is late 1944 or 1945. The shirt and tie was unofficial for some time so if Guards I doubt they would have got away with wearing it.


I had wondered if the archway may have been Western Europe but the presence if ATS in service dress, and the London post-mark seem to rule this out.

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Old 21-08-18, 06:00 PM
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More pics, hope they are better.
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Old 21-08-18, 06:02 PM
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Close ups...
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Old 21-08-18, 10:59 PM
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The officer in the 'beret' looks like it has a dark hackle in the front. His uniform also has black buttons, a dark lanyard and what looks like a black Sam Browne.

Also the beret is poorly shaped, and I don't think any soldier by that period in the war would not know how to shape and wear a beret properly (General officers excepted, of course). Could it be, and I'm no expert here, a Caubeen rather than a beret?

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Old 22-08-18, 09:20 AM
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Last picture is RAMC on the right hand man, The one in the middle is indeed GS Corps.
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Old 23-08-18, 06:05 PM
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Thank you all for having a look and contributing. I was hoping one or both of the Officer's would be well known faces or at least the statley home might be recognisable. Shame there's no joy on both scores. A known unit or place would have helped when I frame it. On a closing note, under a glass, the beret definitley has a bugle on a cord boss on it, no hackles or toorie visible.
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Wearing collar badges, so not Guards.
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