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Who and When?
Great photo with lots of good insignia detail. Your thoughts on regiment and date please.
Jon |
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Jon,
Various Middlesex Rifle Volunteers (London Area) SNCO's, dressed as Rifles, c. 1905. regards
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Why is the man in the middle, apparently a sergeant, in the "senior" position? And no efficiency stars either.
I believe I know. Answers on a postcard. |
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Permanent Staff Sgt Major Instructor, regular army, attached.
regards
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Sufficiently close, to my belief, to get the cigar.
I belief he is indeed a regular, attached, and a sergeant with school of musketry qualification. Too lazy to check my references, but I would have expected him to have four chevrons where he has but three. He is, of course, a Boer War veteran. I could well be wrong. My wife reminds me often. |
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Thats an IGS with 2 clasps and his ALS&GC Medal. regards
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I concur with Grumpy, he’s the regular, permanent staff Musketry Instructor. For many decades they had worn 4-stripes, but at some point the regulations changed to make them colour sergeants. I’ve got the reference somewhere, but Graham Stewart posted the details in a thread here in the forum.
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How can you be sure they're Middlesex?
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I think that they are possibly Sussex Rifle Volunteers circa 1905-07.
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They are wearing two different cap badges, one being a grenade and the other a Cross with Crown above.
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That's what's confusing me. No Middlesex RV's wore a grenade, the closest would have been the 3rd London RV. I'm not aware of a pouch belt of that shape which would have been worn alongside one of the Battalions which wore a Maltese Cross style badge either.
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There is a possibility its just post 1908 into the TF era with a mixture of badges.
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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Agreed. Possibly late KRRC.
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TF Regs 1908 have all permanent staff junior to the acting sergeant major wearing 3 - bar chevrons, the colour sergeants to add a crown, and all to add crossed rifles if S of M certificated.
I don't have a VF Regs close enough to pinpoint 4- bar to 3- bar, and anyway would need a continuous run of Orders. |
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A better quality scan would help enormously?
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