British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > Common Forums > Reproductions, Restrikes, Fakes, Forgeries, and Copies

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 26-01-21, 02:59 AM
Home Guard's Avatar
Home Guard Home Guard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,512
Default 22nd Dragoon Badge - Good or Bad?

I am NOT interested in getting this badge, but am asking this question just for my own education. I think it is a fake based on the maker name on the slider. The name is in large letters, and the badge is metal. I would expect the large letters on an A/A badge but not a metal one. Am I right about this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-A...wAAOSwmOpgDaY7

Thank you,

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26-01-21, 08:52 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,412
Default

29.99! a lot of money for a copy, I wonder if the seller knows?

That said, I think, these days, I would be happy to pay that for an original example!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Home Guard View Post
I am NOT interested in getting this badge, but am asking this question just for my own education. I think it is a fake based on the maker name on the slider. The name is in large letters, and the badge is metal. I would expect the large letters on an A/A badge but not a metal one. Am I right about this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-A...wAAOSwmOpgDaY7

Thank you,

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26-01-21, 09:32 AM
49lassiepen 49lassiepen is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,743
Default

Peter Seaman -FOR HOSTILITIES ONLY states Firmin made Think all my examples are Firmin
Noticed this badge has voided roman numerals and void above scroll ,most of the repros are none voided
David
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 26-01-21, 11:14 AM
Alan O's Avatar
Alan O Alan O is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 10,817
Default

Looking at the poor voiding with jagged edges then some one has been at it with a bad fretting saw or the like. the mark is 1950's or later.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26-01-21, 11:25 AM
49lassiepen 49lassiepen is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: South Wales
Posts: 1,743
Default

Alan agree 100 %
David
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26-01-21, 01:48 PM
Home Guard's Avatar
Home Guard Home Guard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,512
Default

Thank you gentlemen, As I suspected, a fake.

Terry
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26-01-21, 01:53 PM
mojob123 mojob123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 202
Default

Hi Terry. In reply to your question, this large font J.R.GAUNT LONDON maker mark is a genuine mark found on many single metal and bi metal badges post WW2 and on early anodised aluminium badges thereafter up to the 60s. Conveniently, it is found on some badges both with King's Crowns and Queen's Crowns making it fairly easy to date to late 40s/50s on metal badges. In the case of the badge in your link, clearly the unit and the maker mark are not contemporaneous. I think the slider is possibly genuine and has been added to the badge. Whether the badge is genuine or not I wouldn't like to say. Although a genuine maker mark, I have seen WW1 period badges offered for sale with what appear to be genuine large font Gaunt marked sliders. I have also seen badges with sliders that don't appear to be of the Gaunt style, but with this mark on them. These both seem to suggest that someone got hold of a quantity of seemingly genuine Gaunt marked sliders and possibly also got hold of, or made, a large font Gaunt stamp. So, with this mark, some prudence has to be applied before accepting it as a guarantee of a genuine badge. Mike
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26-01-21, 02:26 PM
Sapper795 Sapper795 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 221
Default

Thanks terry for bringing this up, I would have thought this badge was genuine.
Have now learnt a bit more about this particular large font makers mark.
Regards
Chris
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26-01-21, 05:22 PM
Cleeman's Avatar
Cleeman Cleeman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North East Lincolnshire
Posts: 201
Default

It is one of my badges. Missed the makers mark. Now corrected.

Andy
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:35 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.