WANTED: SOME HELMET PLATE CENTRES (HPCs)

[milcollectorblue]

I am ever-hopeful that someone may have one or more of the HPCs I am still looking for to add to my collection. Please drop me a line if you do have something and are willing to part with it/them. Using the K&K Numbers, the ones I am after are:

Lothian (290)
Royal Scots (291)
Kings Own Borderers (311)
KOSB (312) - lion NOT crowned (78mm in height)
KOSB (314) - smaller (77mm in height)
Connaught Rangers Small Harp (351)
Royal Irish – small harp (377)
Royal Irish – larger harp (378)
KOSB (382)
KOSB (383)
The Hertfordshire Regiment (No K&K #)
The Royal Warwickshire Regiment (ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE Circle) (No K&K #)
The Devonshire Regiment (Different Brick Design) (No K&K #).

Thanks in advance,

Lovat

[Sonofacqms]

Did the Hertfordshire Regiment ever wear a helmet plate centre, I have never seen any reference to it being worn.

Rob

[milcollectorblue]

Originally Posted by Sonofacqms

Did the Hertfordshire Regiment ever wear a helmet plate centre, I have never seen any reference to it being worn.

Rob

Hi Rob,

To be honest, I'm only going by another post I saw on here many moons ago that referred to such a HPC, hence the reason it is on my list. I certainly haven't seen one, and it would appear neither did Hugh King or else it would have either been mentioned or illustrated in K&K Vol 1. Ever hopeful, perhaps there is a 'Hertfordshire' expert out there who could put this question to bed, which will then allow me to either retain it on my list or strike it off??

Lovat

[Sonofacqms]

Lovat, I do have a few Hertfordshire items, but the experts on Hertfordshire badges were at Stoneleigh fair today, so maybe they will have an answer.
Hugh King certainly did not get everything right and I have yet to meet someone who did, however when he put together with Arthur Kipling K&K I & II there was not so much information available, but a mighty stride for collectors.

Rob

[Nozzer]

Short answer, yes they did. I have one in my collection and I believe that orasot has one in his collection also. However, they are incredibly scarce and thus command a high price. Once I am able, I will see if I can get a picture of mine.

Andrew

[gb64]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Short answer, yes they did. I have one in my collection and I believe that orasot has one in his collection also. However, they are incredibly scarce and thus command a high price. Once I am able, I will see if I can get a picture of mine.

Andrew

Hello Lovat, as Nozzer has said indeed the Hertfordshire Regt wore one & if you are able take a look at Orasot's great Hertfordshire Regt in the album section he has one in there .

Gerard

[orasot]

Thanks for the kind compliment Gerard, here's mine for reference Lovat, hope it helps,https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=134540
Wilf

[Sonofacqms]

Wilf, thanks for the link, is your helmet plate a one piece or does it have a separate centre?
Rob

[Nozzer]

Rob,

The Hertfordshire Regiment had a separate centre. I have never seen it manufactured in one piece. However, as it is quite a rare item I am ready to be proved wrong. As I said, when I am able, I will get a picture of mine front and back. Then we can decide if it is a fake or not.

All the best,

Andrew

[Sonofacqms]

Andrew, in no way am I even thinking of it being fake, it's just the fact that I have never seen one apart from the one in Wilf's album.

Some helmet plates were made as one piece as my Norfolk which I rescued in relic condition on the right of my board as opposed to the helmet plate on the left side which is two piece.

Rob

[Nozzer]

Morning Rob,

When you say your plate was made as one piece (I am assuming Britannia was separate of course being a different metal to the rest of the centre), is that struck in one piece or the centre attached later during manufactue? I have a similar plate to yours where the centre is attached to the back plate and there are no holes to accommodate lugs/hoops. The centre is definitely manufactured separately though.

I will get some pics when the light is a bit better.

Andrew

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by orasot

Thanks for the kind compliment Gerard, here's mine for reference Lovat, hope it helps,https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=134540
Wilf

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[grey_green_acorn]

Henk,
It is in orasot's private album. You need to become a "friend" to see it.

Tim

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

Henk,
It is in orasot's private album. You need to become a "friend" to see it.

Tim

Better add then "only for my friends" in the post, so no mere "normal" members will get punched on the nose when trying?

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Morning Rob,

When you say your plate was made as one piece (I am assuming Britannia was separate of course being a different metal to the rest of the centre), is that struck in one piece or the centre attached later during manufactue? I have a similar plate to yours where the centre is attached to the back plate and there are no holes to accommodate lugs/hoops. The centre is definitely manufactured separately though.

I will get some pics when the light is a bit better.

Andrew

A couple of pictures as promised.

The lugs on the Hertfordshire centre look to have been repaired, something that I had forgotten about. That being said, I am positive that it is genuine.

Shown also is The Norfolk Regiment plate that I referred to showing the construction. Is yours the same Rob?