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Old 08-09-08, 05:02 AM
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Hello all,
what are your thoughts on this badge.It's die struck I thought they were all sand cast and made in Egypt ??
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Old 08-09-08, 05:38 AM
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I thought the same - personally, this is one badge that I wouldn't touch as there are many fakes in existence unless of course it came with some providence.

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Old 08-09-08, 12:04 PM
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Hello all,
what are your thoughts on this badge.It's die struck I thought they were all sand cast and made in Egypt ??
hi jack and mick
you are so wrong. there were die struck camel corps badges, i have one (will try and dig it out and post a pic) and a very good friend of mine has his grandfathers that is also struck.
now thats not to say this is a good badge that you have pictured. the 2 i refer to are not flat backed but obviously had a male and femal die
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Old 08-09-08, 08:46 PM
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Cool!

Send the pictures - Camel Corps is not my area so I'm always keen to learn more.

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Old 08-09-08, 09:40 PM
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Yes I also would like to see the badges you discribe are either maker marked?
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Old 08-09-08, 09:56 PM
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I noticed that this is the one currently on ebay - I can't believe the price it's at either - nearly $1000!!!

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Old 08-09-08, 11:14 PM
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Slick if you notice 2 guys are running up the bids.That badge suppose to be out of his Grandfathers collection in which he stopped in the 70's.These badges were unoffical and as i said earlier I was led to believe they were only made while the guy's served in Egypt and were sand cast I have seen about 10 ( hat and collar) and all were sand cast some good and average finishes.So I would like to see photo's of the one's badgecollector talked about.
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Old 09-09-08, 08:22 AM
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Any chance of a eBay lot number to that badge Mick?

BC, could you please at the very least tell us what the design of your badge looks like. Is it the static camel, the running camel with base? Is it the Australian badge or even the NZ badge? Frankly it could be anything! The only die strick badge Ive seen to camels are the Indian and Sudanese badges.

The British ICC badge has been faked in sand cast for at least 10 years, it is found in gilt brass. I'm still on the look out for one of these repro's for my collection. It was Mr Golding who told me about these.
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Old 09-09-08, 08:51 AM
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Here is that link:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320292908683

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Old 09-09-08, 01:01 PM
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hi all
i havent been able to put my hand on the badge but rest assured i will and load up some pics asap.
the badge is the australian version, the same design as in the ebay auction but not flat backed and not sand cast. from memory there is no makers name. the badges are the size of the standard collar badge
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Old 10-09-08, 10:37 AM
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Thanks Mick. Out of curosity does your forum think that badge is genuine?

BC, You'll have to make me eat my words because I`m very sceptical of the badge your describing. If its die struck it should be manufactured in Australia to a very high standard. All the originals I have seen were locally made in Egypt and Palestine. You have to remember that the majority of Australian camelers wore on the most part the general service cap badge or collar very few had these badges.
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Old 10-09-08, 09:35 PM
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Jibba I'm with you on this one also,can you post any of your repro camel badges or if you have an original can you post it.If you do not want to post them could you send them to me at jrm@bigpond.net.au Thanks JHR
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Old 11-09-08, 09:11 AM
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An expert has proved the badge to be genuine. Although I plan on adding to this thread if we see any more badges of like design.

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hey Jibba
better late than never
missing a lug unfortunately.
came from the family with his ww1 pair and a few pics of him on camels
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We have had a number of earlier threads on Camel Corps badges which would answer some of these questions, including illustrations. I would not touch the flat back crowned badge myself, a totally different die to the ones I have had for many years. It seems passing strange that one should suddenly turn up at this late stage.
There were FOUR different genuine ACC rising suns IMHO:
1. Large sand cast brass hat badge with camel facing to right
2. Similar design collar badge
3. Collar badge die-struck with crown (similar to the one illustrated) but not flat back, different detail to crown, camel facing to left
4. Collar badge diestruck copper without crown as BC's scans, camel facing to left.
Never seen a maker mark.
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