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Old 10-05-23, 02:19 PM
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photographic evidence shows that in many cases the KC badges were worn well into the 1960's.

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As was the case with many regimental badges.
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Old 10-05-23, 08:44 PM
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I've collected police helmet plates since the 1960's and have never seen a Metpol. helmet plate which you describe. In 1953 a small number of of EIIR QC helmet plates were produced for wear by some Met. bobbies attached to the Royal Palaces. However, these were properly made and not "bodged" as you describe. Archive footage of the 1953 Coronation confirms that the KC GVIR versions were very much in evidence on that day.

Some police forces (not the Met.) did return their old KC plates to the manufacturers to have the KC snipped off and replaced with a QC. But those who did that were very few in number. Generally speaking, the police were not bothered and photographic evidence shows that in many cases the KC badges were worn well into the 1960's.



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Yep, I just worked ceremonial duty on Saturday and there was no attempt by the MPS or any of the UK and British Overseas / Commonwealth Territories police who were in my contingent to replace cap badges or any other EIIR insignia for the Coronation, unlike the military.

And having worn EIIR for 30+ years now I won’t be changing it going forward either!

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Old 11-05-23, 09:37 AM
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Yep, I just worked ceremonial duty on Saturday and there was no attempt by the MPS or any of the UK and British Overseas / Commonwealth Territories police who were in my contingent to replace cap badges or any other EIIR insignia for the Coronation, unlike the military.

And having worn EIIR for 30+ years now I won’t be changing it going forward either!

Cheers……John
Well said John! There are more important issues on which to spend cash these days than having new badges made, which simply denote a change of reign.

When Queen Vic. died, it took the Met. nearly five years to introduce a KC helmet badge and even then it took a further period before that badge became evident on the streets.

I'm sure Charles couldn't give a hoot about the fact that his mum's Crown and Cipher were still proudly displayed by the police at his Coronation. In my opinion the MoD and certain regiments are far too "picky" about such things. This thread just illustrates how much cash is wasted on poor quality badge replacements which, in the long run will surely be "binned".

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Old 11-05-23, 10:38 AM
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Have you seen this post about the new badges?

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-eve...rowning-glory/
Just read it and had to laugh at this comment !

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Each individual cap badge is then inspected before being deemed ready to be worn on the day of the parade.
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Were the inspectors blind.....
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Old 12-05-23, 07:04 AM
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There are a few clips in this youtube video of Firmin making the badges,"Behind the scenes of the Coronation | British Army"
https://youtu.be/C_YBlW7wKTk
Good video, nice to see the farriers at work, hell of a skill!
On the Firmins part of the video, did anyone else notice the older guy with the younger one pointing at and touching the crown of a large QC RA anodised cap badge, then he points at the corner of the work bench, almost as if he's saying "just chop it off", just my take on it.

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Royal Regiment of Artillery King Charles III Coronation issue Officers Cap Badge.

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Old 12-05-23, 10:21 AM
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Royal Regiment of Artillery King Charles III Coronation issue Officers Cap Badge.

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Is this the Officers bronze one Marc?
I hope to hell these are just a one off for the coronation.
Looks like the crown is balancing on the scroll!

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Old 15-05-23, 06:47 PM
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Is this the Officers bronze one Marc?
I hope to hell these are just a one off for the coronation.
Looks like the crown is balancing on the scroll!

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Yes the only colour that was issued.

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The crowns on these badges desperately need voiding in my opinion.

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Yes the only colour that was issued.

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Hi Marc
Post 7 has the Officer wearing a gilt one?
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Not military but for this year's "swan upping" the new cap and arm badge were used.

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Default At the Cenotaph today Royal Cyphers worn on shoulder boards

The Cenotaph today -

with the royal Cypher's worn on the Shoulder boards there was quite a mix

The King wore on each shoulder board a single - EIIR
Princess Anne wore on each shoulder board a single - CRIII
Prince William and Edward wore both EIIR & CRIII on each shoulder board side by side.

has this practice ever been done before???

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See here https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ht=Mountbatten
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