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What have we here? No 19
From my accumulation of photos, an image of OTC Brockville Ont Aug 1942. CTAA F Coy Platoon #19.
The question, what is the patching?
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I am guessing that the patch on the topee denotes an officer cadet?
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Brockville Rifles were with 6th Div, Pacific Command, but this patching looks too light to be the Pacific Command green diamond, and looks too light to be Atlantic Command grey diamond either (although I see no connection with that command).
Bad assumptions and a bad guess on my part, but if this is a 'graduating class' photo, could this be unauthorised yellow B/N-Force patching on tropical dress prior to deployment? Sure wish they had colour film in Brockville in 1942. A Clive Law question: since Brockville was in Military District 3 in 1942, was there any distinct patching for military districts? |
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I would agree with Jibba Jabba that the white diamond on the solar topee indicates an Officer Cadet. The clue is in the front row with two NCOs (instructors?) and the OC who do not have the patch! The patches on the sleeves are probably related.
Would it be warm enough in Brockville for tropical kit?
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Thanks gentlemen. The Brockville Rifles were at one point during the war, a training establishment for officer candidates. I believe you have hit the nail on the head with the id as some sort of patch for officer candidates. If the patching was consistent with other such establishments, they were likely white. This is an undocumented patch to date.
Summer in Canada can be extremely hot, and various orders of dress were authorized for wear during that season. Shirts and shorts was one of these. David, there were no Military District patches during the Second World War. There were a set of badges for "Commands" after the war, and into the 60's. They included Central Command, Prairie Command, Western Command, Quebec Command, Eastern Command, 1st Cdn Division, NDHQ, AHQ, Canadian Base Units Europe. These had unique designs, but the formation signs were only used on vehicles and not produced as formation patches.
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I have a number of photos showing these patches in wear by O/Cdts. I believe that each platoon was identified by a different coloured patch. The use of a white cap-band or a white peak to the field service cap was the standard identifier for Officer cadets and there would be no need to indicate this on the sleeves. If any authorization for this exists it would be in Part II orders of the school - almost impossible to locate now.
Clive
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Small correction for Bill A. There was an officer cadet traing unit (OCTU) at Brockville during the Second World War but it existed quite independently of The Brockville Rifles. They continued to use the local armoury as their base. I'm not certain exactly where the OCTU camp was located in Brockville, but it was large enough to hold the RCR for a period of time after the Second World War - from November 1946 to November 1949, when it moved to Camp Petawawa.
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Thanks Wyn. Didn't the cadre of the OCTU wear Brockville Rifles badges?
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