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12th ( East Suffolk ) glengarry badge.
Hi All,
Another two additions to the Suffolk collection are on their way, one of them is a pagri badge, mentioned elsewhere, and the other, a glengarry badge, from the same source. I have been advised that buying glengarry badges is a bit like stepping into a minefield! However, I do feel fairly confident about this particular badge, it does actually look as if it's been around since 1881, to me, at least. It has had a small repair at some time in it's life, the key on the top has been replaced, and this certainly wasn't done yesterday, and the whole badge seems suitably ancient, what do you think? . |
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Chris don't forget repro/fake glengarry go back 100years + . Foxes reissues/ restrikes
David |
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Well, David, I suppose I could learn to live with a hundred year old restrike, if I had to, no one else seems to have an opinion on this item, the seller did mention brass loops rather than copper, is that unusual?
Last edited by thursdaychris; 28-11-20 at 05:41 PM. |
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Chris,
People are reluctant to comment on the originality or otherwise of pre 1881 glengarry badges as there have been so many fakes produced, from the 100 year old ones that David mentions to several varieties of modern day fakes. There are arguements that North and South loops are correct/incorrect similarly east and west. There are also arguements over Brass loops v Copper loops, brass loops being the favoured ones. Many copies are simple to see at first glance due to wrong colours, worn dies and overall shoddy manufacture. Real ones are very hard to tell from photographs and and need to be in the hand. The majority of forum members have little or no knowledge of such early badges, the majority being WW1 , WW2 and modern badge collectors. I have some knowledge having collected Victorian badges but wouldnt now give an opinion having been shot down in the past by owners/sellers who are convinced they have the genuine article. My best rule is to think of the following. 1. Is it of such excellent manufacture that was expected from craftsmen in the 1870's etc. 2. Has it got patina and dirt and wear consistent with being 150 years old? Hope thats informative if not helpful regards
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Personally I believe the quality is not very good.
Andy
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Leave to carry on Sir please. |
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Chris sadly one member who was very knowable on glengarry badges is now recently deceased I was lucky that he weighted and photograph my items , the officers he placed in his records He also sold me a 99th glengarry from his own collection which he states is the 3rd rarest Even though happy with mine .- like many others I would not give an opinion on other glengarry's Most of mine are ex Epworth trust collection
Chris re living with a 100 year old restrike in one of your posts you said only genuine items would be added as you wished for a museum standard collection David Last edited by 49lassiepen; 28-11-20 at 07:59 PM. Reason: addition |
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