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Old 13-09-19, 11:34 AM
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Default Irish Guards - or Middlesex Yeomanry?

Just bought this photo from a well-known auction site where it was listed as Irish Guards.

Althought he is clearly wearing a star cap I think it is that of the Middlesex Yeomanry and not that of the Irish Guards. No Irish Guards Bn served in the armoured role which would have entitled them to a black beret. Although the KD shirt suggests Middle East or Italy where the Irish Gds 1st Bn served from Dec 1943 until April 1944 they did not serve in an Armoured role.

The Middlesex Yeomanry served as Royal Signals throughout the war wearing their regimental cap badge, latterly as the 9th Armoured Brigade's Signal Squadron in Italy from May 1944 to August 1945. It was not uncommon for units attached to armoured formations to wear black berets so I suspect this is a Yeomanry photo and not Guards.

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Old 13-09-19, 12:38 PM
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To my eye certainly not an Irish Guards Cap Star, wrong shape in my opinion, being too regular in shape as opposed to the almost elongated appearance of the Irish Guards.


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Old 13-09-19, 12:47 PM
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I agree that it is unlikely to be Irish Guards, all eight points of the star in the photo look equi-distant from the centre.
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Old 13-09-19, 12:51 PM
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I can think of possible candidates re. the badge but not with N. Africa service.
Coldstream Guards, 4 RDG, 22nd Dragoons?
Size of the badge not quite right for them and a circlet design in the star so not 22D anyway?
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Old 13-09-19, 01:45 PM
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Middlesex Yeomanry.
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Old 13-09-19, 03:29 PM
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Middlesex Yeomanry.
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Old 13-09-19, 04:01 PM
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Thanks to all who commented. Glad I'm not going blind or daft.

Yet another example of the black beret worn by those other than RAC/RTR
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Old 13-09-19, 04:10 PM
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And yet you still get the occasional ex-RTR man popping up on forums and harrumphing "The black beret has only ever been worn by The Royal Tank Regiment".
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Old 13-09-19, 05:36 PM
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Another exception. RASC serving with 9th Armoured Division.

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Old 30-09-19, 09:02 AM
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At odds with the KD shirt, a "British Battle Insignia (2): 1939-45" illustration by Mike Chappell, a major of 4th/7th Dragoon Guards, 8th Independent Armoured Brigade.
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