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From the regimental title it is post 1881. It has at the top a representation of a crown used during Queen Victoria's reign, one of two frequently seen on crests and insignia. I would assess the box as being from around the time of the 2nd Anglo/Boer War, just before the death of the Queen. A hall mark or other makers mark would confirm this.
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I hope these are of interest.
Mark |
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RDF OSD
OSD Cap and Collars
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RDF OSD Collar used on Field Service Cap?
I was told that the collar was sometimes used on the FS Cap. I would be grateful for any photographic confirmation. thanks Mark
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I believe that was true of several fusilier and other regiments for the short period between the introduction of the FSC and the design of new badges to suit it. For this interim period of between 12 and 18 months, longer if serving overseas, the glengarry badges were too large and so both collar badges and parts of shoulder title (e.g. Light Infantry bugles) were used in lieu by several regiments.
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This topic was comprehensively discussed in
Linaker, DDA, 2004, ‘Field [Service] Cap Badges’, Crown Imperial, 113, 27-29. |
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The F.S. Cap was obsoleted before this pattern collar badge was introduced. These smaller OSD collars date from somewhere between post 1911 and before 1914. The Brodrick replaced the F.S. Cap from 1902. John |
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That's true John, but as you know Officers did not wear the Brodrick and continued to wear the FSC for some years. I suppose it is possible that they wore a collar badge until their own design of FSC cap badge was approved?
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Toby
yes you are right regarding Officers and Brodricks. I believe the field cap was replaced by the service dress forage cap for officers c. 1902. With regard to the field cap itself from c 1897 officers wore a silver & gilt version of pattern 4579 (the Elephant & Tiger upon Grenade, above the title scroll) -specified in Dress reg 1900. What I do not know is what they wore on the FSC between 1893 & 1897 was it a gilt version of the "universal grenade" or the embroidered regimental pattern forage cap badge. I suspect the latter but have no proof. John |
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Last edited by Toby Purcell; 25-10-11 at 11:14 PM. |
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If any of you are more familiar with this, please let me know. More RDF stuff will follow shortly. Regards, Timo |
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Just as an aside and to show how collar and other badges were often used for the first year after the Field Service Cap was introduced I thought that Forum members might be interested to see this photo of Royal Sussex Volunteer Battalion lads at annual camp circa 1897-98.
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Here is my next RDF cap badge and I would like to hear some advice... it is very bright and with the pin system on the back. It was sold by decent seller on ebay- endici.
What to you think, is it something what don't make sence or something what may be was in use around 1918-1921? Just because the pin system I think if it is real, it has to be from late RDF exist period because cost of producing, etc.. Just during the war time probably they have to keep down production costs and fancy pin system wasn't available? What you think guys, have you seen this example before? Last edited by phaethon; 29-10-11 at 08:43 AM. |
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And my last find - like I experienced, few guys bid on it on ebay and it went pretty high. I was the lucky one who scoop it anyway.
My main question is, what it is, where it was used, etc? Like I have been learned, it has to be something post 1881. Regards, Timo Last edited by phaethon; 29-10-11 at 08:44 AM. |
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royal dublin fusiliers |
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