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Army Proficiency Badge: Driver MT
Does anyone have a badge or at least a photo ?
The print (attached) shows Crossed Starting Handles. Badge was likely in use till the 1960's. |
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Never seen such a badge. What is the source of your drawing?
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Perhaps it's a wind up?
Mike |
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No need to get cranky!
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I promise not to fly off the handle!
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The badge is rubbish but the replies are getting better.
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There was quite a turnover in those badges once, you know....
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[A] Attd prints of 2 more badges from a sheet which
show over 40 Proficiency & Trade Badges - include 1. Best Swordsman in Squadron 2, Best Swordsman in Regiment 3. First Class Range Taker 4. Best AT Driver ( same as attd but with KC above ) ( incidentally there was this genius who discovered that the best way to keep Mules silent at night was to weigh down their tails with a rock - they couldn't bray without a raised tail reflex ) 5. Mule Driver 6. Best Air Despatcher [B] Best Swordsman in Regiment: (approved 30-3-1925 by AM Hidden Captain Inspector of Clothing) http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30074935 [C] All Ranks except Drivers carried a Sword: http://www.1914-1918.net/whatcavreg.htm |
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A "Hidden Captain, Inspector of Clothing"? Sounds kinky! Did he hide in the closet and peer out at the clothes while... Oh, never mind!
Seriously though: love the mule story. Could even be true. But what makes you think all these badges were worn in the Indian Army as opposed to the British? Also, I'd be surprised to find a crossed handles badge in use in the 1960's. I believe even the IA was using electric starters by then. Peter |
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Start handles
The IA had some Dodge Power Wagons (3/4 ton,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Power_Wagon) Willy's Jeeps*, 1 ton Nissan (Jap design) trucks late 50's / early 60's. Carried starting handles if the electric starter didn't work - batteries down - low run miles. *vintage sale http://bangalore.olx.in/willy-s-jeep...-iid-570402410 There has to be a badge somewhere at least in India with crossed starting handles. An H. Grail search. Some genius would have designed it - people have done Leeks, 3 sprigs of heather (Westmoreland, Cumberland Yeomanry) Garters etc. |
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I've even seen a 'Bombay Pioneers" [I think] stamped, antiqued base metal meant as a shoe buckle for an Italian loafer - the shoe, not the man - sold as an "Indian Army" badge. 'It takes all sorts...' and 'If you [make] it they will [buy]'!
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I've done extensive searching using every term I could think of, from the sublime to the ridiculous, and I can find no images which match this.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam - I have a catapult. Give me all your money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head. |
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Handle
[1] John Gaylor (Sons of John Company) in his preface (page viii)
refs a Maj Gen CN Das commissioned 1933 in the RR. [2] Book written by latter titled ' Customs and Traditions of the IA' pub. 1984 by Vision Books / Orient Paperbacks, Delhi. VBN 084121: Following page 136, 5th plate shows a badge with crossed Starting Handles. [3] http://www.visionbooksindia.com/authors.asp?n=0136 H. Stuff Works - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjLiGqC_YsI Handel with King George I ( 1717) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Frideric_Handel Worked a 1946 Sunbeam Talbot yrs ago, had a handle. |
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Quote:
http://www.gnmilitaria.co.uk/viewpho...h=15359&phqu=2 [ Not seen this badge in Tugwell's Book ' History of the Bombay Pioneers ' ] or ok, for a Pouch perhaps ? |
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No, the one I mean was the central medallion, no crown, with two little rectangular loops added at 3 and 9 o'clock for the leather straps that attached it to a shoe. Punched out of thin white metal and antiqued. Only a real griffin would mistake it for a real badge, but there are certainly things out there which look pretty close to issue stuff but aren't.
BTW, story 4) above is funny but probably not true. When the Chindits took mules into Burma, behind Japanese lines, they had the Indian Veterinary Corps sever their vocal cords so they couldn't bray, which seems a lot of work - and not much fun for the mules - if simply tying down their tails would work! |
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