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11-10-11, 11:38 AM
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WM roses
The attached photos is of four different white metal 'roses, which iwould appreciate more information on please.
The largest is an arm badge, with a screw-back fitting, made by JR Gaunt, London, is a pre-war British TA divisional sign, but which? The others I'm not sure about but believe the two smallest may be for medal ribbons. They appear to be 'stitch-on' type insignia. All help appreciated. Stephen. 
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11-10-11, 04:45 PM
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Smaller ones are as worn on medal ribbons, here's the larger one being worn by Maj.-Gen. G. C. Kelly, commander of the 49th Div in the late 1930s
Lee
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#5
11-10-11, 10:00 PM
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looks like both the arm badge and the smaller rose being worn. the smaller rose being worn on the ribbon of the 1914 star, which is the first medal ribbon of line 2 of his 3 lines of ribbons. lol, hope that makes sense bc
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#7
12-10-11, 12:49 PM
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Stephen,
It usually signifies that the wearer qualifies for a bar ( for examples the 5th August -22nd November bar on the 1914 star or an additional bar to the Territorial Efficency Medal ). The actual bar if worn on the ribbon only would virtually obscure the ribbon. But if you mean why was a rose was chosed to signify the entitlement to a bar, I dont know. Peter
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#9
15-10-11, 12:04 AM
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Hi,
Could the middle sized badge be one of these? East Lancs Rgt, Edit. thought it was taken '40-41 but that looks like a 39-43 ribbon Last edited by WW2soldiergallery; 15-10-11 at 12:17 AM. Reason: date
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#10
16-10-11, 11:01 AM
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WM roses
Thank you. I'll dig further into the East Lancs possibility.
Nice photo. I'd opt for the 1938-40 date, from the pattern of Service Dress, especially as a gas mask case is being worn. Stephen.
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#11
04-04-15, 04:23 AM
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White Metal 49th West Riding Division Formation Badge
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Does anyone have a date or year the white metal 49th West Riding Division formation badge was introduced, I know it's prior to 1925 but and trying to fine the specific year it was adopted.
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#12
04-04-15, 05:45 AM
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A very small WM rose was worn on a black felt square (approx. 22mm square) below the 3 Inf Div formation sign by 2 East Yorks in 8 Inf Bde 1944/45. Mike
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06-04-15, 06:20 PM
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2 East Yorks Rose
As Mike mentioned,
Two examples of the 2nd Bn East Yorkshire Regiment white metal roses. Last edited by guest123a; 21-07-15 at 06:42 PM.
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#14
08-04-15, 09:57 AM
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Guys,
As I'm still non the wiser as to the exact year the 49th West Riding Division white metal rose came in to use I will re-float this thread one last time, Does anyone on the forum know?
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08-04-15, 10:12 AM
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WM roses
Marcus,
My best guess is that the 49th introduced this rose as a result of the following ACI. I cannot prove it though. 13.08.24. ACI 487: It has been decided that units of TA divisions may wear the divisional signs which were worn on the sleeve of jackets by the respective divisions during the Great War, provided that no cost, now or subsequently, falls on Army funds, and that the expense can be met from surplus Association funds without causing deficit, or from regimental funds. These symbols are not available for issue from the RAOC and arrangements for their supply will be made locally. Stephen.
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