Grenade Badge 10 cm x 4.5 cm - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

leigh kitchen · #1 23-09-21, 03:04 PM

Does anyone know what this is please?
I'm thinking rather than a pagri badge of some kind that it may be a French pouch badge from the 19th / 20th century?

It's 10 cm tall by around 4.5 cm wide, the reinforcing strip at junction of ball and flame may be part of the original badge or it may be a repair as there is a fracture at that point.

leigh kitchen · #2 28-09-21, 12:43 PM

The seller's suggestion was that this is an early badge for the Lancashire Fusiliers fur cap.......

Luke H · #3 28-09-21, 01:32 PM

Looks like the iPhone Fusiliers to me going by the central device!

leigh kitchen · #4 28-09-21, 01:43 PM

Note the absence of photographer's face - Interpol will never find me.

manchesters · #5 28-09-21, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

The seller's suggestion was that this is an early badge for the Lancashire Fusiliers fur cap.......

The LF's were created in 1881 and all its Fur Cap grenades are well documented and have the sphinx in laurel wreath on the ball.

This is not one of them.

regards

Luke H · #6 28-09-21, 01:47 PM

No facials needed, they can get you on photos of your finger prints now…

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...e-57226165.amp

Bet he was cheesed off getting caught!

Jean-Loup · #7 28-09-21, 02:13 PM

"Note the absence of photographer's face - Interpol will never find me."

Nice to hear of you after all these years Leigh.
Dont you work for Interpol?

JL

leigh kitchen · #8 28-09-21, 02:35 PM

You in't seen me right?

You found your way here at last Jean-Loup - how are you, and how's the collecting going?

Jean-Loup · #9 29-09-21, 11:32 AM

I am fine as is the collecting.

leigh kitchen · #10 30-09-21, 11:11 AM

Looks much the same, an item for sale by a seller in Warsaw:

"Burning grenade tsarist Russia large stick 10.5 cm"

leigh kitchen · #11 30-09-21, 11:19 AM

More similar, Polish sellers, sold as Napoleonic, Crimean.......

cbuehler · #12 30-09-21, 03:04 PM

It does looks similar to those. The only thing is that the brooch on yours looks very British and, whilst I don't for sure, of a type not seen until later in the 19th C.
Could it have been added sometime later?

CB

leigh kitchen · #13 30-09-21, 03:17 PM

Yes, I think the brooch is an addition, though an old one, applied with solder.
A fanciful suggestion could be that it's Crimean War Russian, acquired and adapted by a British unit for pouch, crossbelt, pagri, whatever.
In the absence of evidence for that though it's a reinforced or repaired "unknown" with a replacement fitting.

leigh kitchen · #14 30-09-21, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke H

No facials needed, they can get you on photos of your finger prints now…

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...e-57226165.amp

Bet he was cheesed off getting caught!

And it was Stilton cheese - I am personally offended, living as I do a few miles from Stilton (even if it wasn't actually made there).
Anyway, I'll make a point of wearing gloves when I take photos from now on.

leigh kitchen · #15 30-09-21, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchesters

The LF's were created in 1881 and all its Fur Cap grenades are well documented and have the sphinx in laurel wreath on the ball.

This is not one of them.

regards

I've no idea why the seller thought this may be LF, my thoughts were that it wasn't British but I like grenade badges, it's a bit battered but has some age to it. There seem to be a fair number of them around, certainly ground-plundered ones. I suspect it is identifiable but that descriptions tend to be generalisations, assumptions.