Unknown Scottish Rifle Volunteershako badge

[michael1]

Does anyone know which Scottish Rifle Volunteer unit wore this shako badge? Could it be Galloway? A photo taken in Dumfries circa 1870s shows this in wear but it does not appear to be Dumfries

[REME1942]

Glasgow Yeomanry had lion and the motto but not identical as can be seen in this
https://mindenmilitaria.com/shop.php?code=58887

[mike_vee]

A "Victorian Queens Own Glasgow Yeomanry Officer’s Helmet" which has a "wreath of Scottish thistles" :

https://www.michaeldlong.com/product...ficers-helmet/

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[manchesters]

I dont think the overlay started life on that Helmet Plate.
Look like two differently made pieces to me.

best wishes

[Alex Rice]

That lion has no face, looks like a crude casting.

[michael1]

Gentlemen, thanks for your replies so far, this is DEFINITELY a Rifle Volunteer unit as I have seen this badge worn by an RV officer in a photo taken in Dumfries. The badge itself is owned by a friend of mine, a vey experienced and knowledgeable collector for over 60 years so I’d be surprised if it’s made up as one respondent suggested, my only aim is to determine from which county the wearer’s unit was from, unfortunately without any unit name and the rampant lion being a generic Scottish emblem, this is proving difficult and despite his awesome knowledge, the owner doesn’t know either!

[Wmr-RHB]

Maybe a bit of a clarification about Dumfries and Galloway and their Rifle Volunteer Corps.

Before 1881 there were 9 Dumfriesshire RVCs. They became all part of the 1st Administrative Battalion of Dumfriesshire Rifle Volunteers. All were consolidated into the 1st Dumfriesshire RVC in 1881. And this was designated 3rd (Dumfries) Volunteer Battalion, The King's Own Scottish Borderers in 1887.
Thus there is potential a case for 9 pre 1881 shako badges. And, again potentially, a common shako badge for the Admin. Bn. could have been in use from some point in time.
From 1881-1887 the RVC would probably have had a helmet badge.

Galloway was not a county name (for the purpose of the volunteer movement). There were 5 Wigtownshire RVCs and 6 Kirkcudbrightshire RVCs. All part of The Galloway Administrative Battalion of Rifle Volunteers (the only such unit without a number). They were consolidated in 1881 in The Galloway (Kirkcudbright and Wigtown) RVC. They became a volunteer battalion of the KOSB, but never were designated as such and thus changed to The Galloway (Kirkcudbright and Wigtown) VRC in 1891.
Again there could have been shako badges for each RVC and the Admin. Bn.
In any case there was a cap badge for the post 1881 unit sporting a shield with the climbing lion and GRV above and an oval thistle wreath around it and the crown (QVC and KC both existed) above.

[michael1]

Many thanks Henk, Michael