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Old 02-05-19, 06:45 AM
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Default Early Georgian Yeomanry button id

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Ive been told this is attributed to the DACORUM YEOMANRY CAVALRY TROOP HERTFORDSHIRE but I remain skeptical. Help is greatly appreciated
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Old 02-05-19, 11:31 AM
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Hi R.Beck, welcome to the Forum. Your account is active and open for posts.
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Old 02-05-19, 11:46 AM
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I would think Dorset Yeomanry of some description would be more likely. sure someone will give you a positive id.

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Old 02-05-19, 12:03 PM
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From Ripley and Darmanin

Hertfordshire Yeomanry, Dacorum Troop, 1831-36, but it was only a tentative ID?

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Old 02-05-19, 01:29 PM
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Hertfordshire Yeomanry, Dacorum Troop, 1831-36, but it was only a tentative ID?

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Thank you. So, the question mark confused me at the end of your post.. Are you saying in fact it is associated with the Hertfordshire Yeomanry, Dacorum Troop, 1831-36? Many thanks in advance
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Old 02-05-19, 01:36 PM
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Hertfordshire Yeomanry, Dacorum Troop, 1831-36, but it was only a tentative ID?

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Also, these buttons are adorned on this jacket which is cut in the style of the Napoleonic era
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Old 02-05-19, 09:36 PM
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I'm quoting from a book by two of the most respected button authorities there are, at the time of printing it would have been their best guess based on the design, construction and any other data they had, the fact that the buttons are closed backed which you only showed in another thread makes me think its probably not early 1800s but later.

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Old 02-05-19, 09:45 PM
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After a bit of research I was able to discover some new information. Although it’s widely known that the closed back coatee button wasn’t used until the 1820’s, the ball button however was used as early as 1800. Apparently these buttons were favored by the Light Dragoon’s and yeomanry regiments and not so much by the regular British army. Interesting to note that the enclosed image of one particular ball button was manufactured by I Nutting Covent Garden, a strictly pre 1815 back marked
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Old 02-05-19, 09:54 PM
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I'm quoting from a book by two of the most respected button authorities there are, at the time of printing it would have been their best guess based on the design, construction and any other data they had, the fact that the buttons are closed backed which you only showed in another thread makes me think its probably not early 1800s but later.

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Also, I'm curios, since the jacket at the military museum has a similar coat with closed back buttons, could they have gotten it wrong too? I'm with you on closed backed buttons as I was always told post 1820, but I'm wondering if it is possible they were used circa 1812 but on a very limited basis. Unfortunately there's very limited info on the subject

https://collection.nam.ac.uk/detail....c=1992-05-39-1
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Old 03-05-19, 05:23 AM
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This site has the Prince of Wales Plumes only used after 1860?

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PS my use of a question mark indicates I don't necessarily believe this to be true.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/buttonsgtom.html#anchorg
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Old 03-05-19, 05:27 AM
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Roy's amazing album of early Militia buttons takes the POW plumes back at least to 1816 when the Local Militia was disbanded.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=155844

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