Lanark & Renfrew Scottish collar dog

[Snowdrop 68]

Hi guys,

This is my latest purchase.

Is it an Officer's collar dog? I have the ORs version.

Any help would be appreciated,

Regards, Bill

[Bill A]

That is a new one to me. I haven't seen it before.

[Phillip Herring]

Post unification ORs' collar.
I don't know if they had an officers'.

Phil

[Snowdrop 68]

Many thanks Phillip,

I hadn't seen one that pattern either. Now I just have to find another

Regards, Bill

[Bill A]

Phil, Do you know when they adopted that collar? They must be relatively scarce, with the unit now an LAA regiment.

[Phillip Herring]

I got mine directly from the unit in 1990. Shortly afterwards they were converted to Air Defence Artillery and I believe that they are now 42 Field Artillery Regiment.
Ed Storey was in the L & R Scots. He will know better than I regarding what collar badges were worn.

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/e...ent/index.page

Phil

[John S.]

Snowdrop:
This collar is indeed a collar of the L & R Scottish. If I recall correctly, it was worn by both OR`s and Officers. The rear markings indicate that this collar was manufactured in 1979, so it is possible that this pattern of collar was adopted by the Regiment some time close to this date. This collar (as well as the hat badge and shoulder insignia) became obsolete when the Regiment converted to a Light Anti Aircraft Regiment in Nov 1992, when RCA insignia was taken into use.
Why this pattern of collar was adopted by the Regiment at that time is a mystery to me. I can only speculate that the regimental title in the W/M oval collars were somehow seen as unnecessary, and the new design, being a gold finish highlighting the number 42 would somehow be an improvement over the W/M pattern.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
John S.

[Snowdrop 68]

Thanks very much for the answers.

It certainly had me stumped as to when it would have been worn if it was ORs.

Once again a great response from the forum and another one to look for.

Thanks again, Bill

[Phillip Herring]

Originally Posted by John S.

Snowdrop:
This collar is indeed a collar of the L & R Scottish. If I recall correctly, it was worn by both OR`s and Officers. The rear markings indicate that this collar was manufactured in 1979, so it is possible that this pattern of collar was adopted by the Regiment some time close to this date. This collar (as well as the hat badge and shoulder insignia) became obsolete when the Regiment converted to a Light Anti Aircraft Regiment in Nov 1992, when RCA insignia was taken into use.
Why this pattern of collar was adopted by the Regiment at that time is a mystery to me. I can only speculate that the regimental title in the W/M oval collars were somehow seen as unnecessary, and the new design, being a gold finish highlighting the number 42 would somehow be an improvement over the W/M pattern.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
John S.

From the link that I included (for a reason).

In 1946, the Regiment was re-roled as a Light Anti-Aircraft Unit and became the 59th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment (Lanark and Renfrew Scottish). The Regiment returned to its Infantry roots in 1959, becoming The Lanark and Renfrew Scottish Regiment. The Regimental Birthday of 1992 saw the Regiment becoming Air Defence (Anti-Aircraft) again. Its new name became 1st Air Defence Regiment (Lanark and Renfrew Scottish), RCA, and regimental personnel came from both the Regular and Reserve Force (it became a “Total force Unit”).

In 1992, the regiment re-roled as air defence, not light anti-aircraft.

Phil

[John S.]

Phil:
Quite correct- my error.
The L & R have gone through several changes over the years, but their latest incarnation is, I believe, as 42nd Field Regiment (Lanark & Renfrew Scottish) RCA, which came into being in 2010.
Interesting to note that their purposely retained their 42nd number and old infantry regiment title in their current name.
Cheers,
John S.