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Old 05-04-08, 01:25 PM
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Default 2 Canadian Infantry Division formation patches

A selection of officers patches to 2 Canadian Infantry Division. In WW2, the Canadian army intended to use the same colours as the WW1 Canadian Corps divisions. The WW1, 2nd Division used a dark, dark blue formation patch which proved to be very difficult to match in WW2. Several attempts were made to find appropriate tone of blue, but eventually the division settled on a medium blue tone. The officer's used the CII device on their patches. The CII was embroidered in bullion wire and in yellow thread. Examples exist in size back and with backing materials.
Two bullion wire examples attached as thumbnails. Note these were mostly hand embroidered, and thus there are differences to almost all the bullion wire patches.
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Default 2 CID embroidered patches

A couple of examples of embroidered thread (as opposed to bullion wire) 2 CID patches. The first example is heavy embroidery while the second example is much finer.
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Old 05-04-08, 02:35 PM
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Gmornin Bill........Is there a canvas example of these 2 Div patches? it seems like ive seen one,somewhere.
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Old 05-04-08, 08:21 PM
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Hello Bill, No official 2 CID patch in canvas with a CII exists. They were never made. I have an odd one, appears to be "theatre made" with the CII stencilled on a canvas like material. However, I am not confident that it is a good one.
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Old 05-04-08, 09:02 PM
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Ciao Bill, I also have one that appears to be neatly done,on a piece of blue canvas. I fell for it hook,line,and sinker,early in my collecting career, Oh well,live and learn.
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Old 05-04-08, 09:26 PM
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Can you post an image of it?
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So Bill, only the officers issue have the CII on them, right?

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Hi Greg, Yes that is my understanding. Other ranks may have worn them but would have risked the wrath of God if caught.
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Hi Greg, Yes that is my understanding. Other ranks may have worn them but would have risked the wrath of God if caught.
Bill, I've heard a story(and I believe it was My Supervisor in the Post Office,who was a Sgt. in the Toronto Scottish) that this was a patch to appease the Toronto Scottish when they were taken out of the !st Div & put in the 2nd,The officers & men were furious & the or's wouldn't wear them but the officers did,This fellow gave me his & he was a Sgt. the patch was melton.I foolishly gave it away in trade. Any truth to that? Ray
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Hey Ray, That is a new one for me. Could he have meant the Tor Scots MG arrow patch?
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Hey Ray, That is a new one for me. Could he have meant the Tor Scots MG arrow patch?
Yes, you are right Bill . Right on. Come to think of it now it was the arrow patch. Ray
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Talking 2CID (?") My phony canvas copy

My phony canvas one is on top!
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Old 07-04-08, 10:08 PM
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Hi Bill, An interesting animal, that "officerized" printed patch. Could have been done by anybody at any time since 1943. It appears to have been painted rather than stenciled?
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I thought it was the real deal when I first got it, and I kept it with a small group of 2Div badges.
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Default repro or unofficial

......as Bill suggested ...it could have been made by anyone since 1943. "If" it had been done in theatre by an officer...would it still be considered a phony or repro?

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