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Old 08-01-08, 01:31 PM
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The firmin badge looks good but I have never seen a strengthening bar that long before. The short bar one is fine as well. I would not worry about the slight differences in design as the regiment wore the same style badge from 1901-1950s so there were several makers. For some reason the Q/C badges were not so well detailed as the k/c ones and were not voided so much in the lettering or at the end of the wreaths.

I will photograph my 2 badges and post them.

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Old 08-01-08, 01:35 PM
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....thanks at all.... I think the No.4 is a cheaper model of the original Firmin but because I gave find 20 years ago among other militaria English left here in Ialy by the Second World War. The No. 3 insteadi I was given by the German friends. The No. 1 and the No. 2 Firmin instead I took them to England via the Internet .... and J await to see yout budges Alan....
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Here is a selection of my Bay's badges, notice the size of the Officers badge marked J & Co compared to the other-ranks badges.

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Old 08-01-08, 02:39 PM
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My 2 are identical to those - the large font Gaunt London and a k/c with bar. All very original to me. The q/c copies come with both solid and voided lettering - any with voided lettering or lugs would not make it into my collection.

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Alan
When you say with lugs is it just the Queen's crown version you are refering to as i have a king's crown with lugs.

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Yes that is correct - it was just the q/c I was referring to.

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.. my compliments ... for the badge and your knowledge
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.. I continue with Bays ... This another Firmin badge (left) ... much consumed ... and with different marks....
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Hi Musafa

Both look ok to me especially the one with shortened reinforcement bar. Not so so sure about the long one! Jury's Out. Firmin were producing Bays badges in 1946 and the Bays were in Italy then. So if you bought it locally it might be one left there after the war.
But as usual, its very hard to say without 'feelin' the badge

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ciao Cardiffbloke... .... the last Firmin posted arrive from England .... while others J have find here in Italy about 20 years ago together at different brochures of Bays who try to post you... I did not know that those are marked Firmin are since 1946 ....
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... because the Queen's Bays have left Italy for Germany in the summer of 1945 ... Had all of this material to reduce (dates documents) from 1938 to 1957 ...
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... because the Queen's Bays have left Italy for Germany in the summer of 1945 ... Had all of this material to reduce (dates documents) from 1938 to 1957 ...
Hi Mufasa

The Queen's Bays stayed in Italy after WW2 till 1947 when they were posted back to UK to a place called Chester. The Regimental website will confirm this for you :

http://www.qdg.org.uk/digest.php?id=...=Queens%20Bays

Plus i have an invitation to the Sgts Mess Summer Ball somewhere in Italy printed in in Italian and dated sometime in the summer of 1946. So i am afraid your reference material has mislead you.

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Old 15-02-08, 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the site: I read carefully, until summer 1946 ...

But I think he read with this badge is still from England, finished in Italy I do not know how, because of lunch menus are aroud 1955 year, and all the restaurants is in London ... You can post your invitation in Italian? ... ciao Oriano
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