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Old 31-12-14, 07:11 PM
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Interesting insignia. Like John, I was wondering if a new "Stalwart Guardian" patches were again in use.
Question, traditionally officer candidates wore white strips/flashes to indicate they were officer candidates. This has changed to red?
Here is a summary of the relationship between Canada and Trinidad Tobago. http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca..._id=7&lang=eng
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The red stripe is used during recruit and officer candidate training as different colours indicate the different training platoons.
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Here are a couple of examples from the OG 107 Combat era.



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If the individual in question is an officer candidate in an exchange / assistance program of some sort, it is odd that he wears the Canada title on the slip-on.
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Any more odd then the WWII USA/Canada badges worn in the RCAF or the Sierra Leone rank insignia worn by the Canadian military when they worked in that country?
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Odd in the sense that the BCATP allowed the nationality titles of the airmans nation to be worn instead of RCAF. Those candidates were not Canadian and were not represented as such. The air force USA/Canada titles somehow snuck through the approval process. They caused significant problems when US citizens who had enlisted in the Canadian army requested permission to wear USA titles on the army bd. They cited the practice in the RCAF as a precedent but the practice of wearing other nationality titles on the army uniform was eventually prohibited.
Was the Sierra Leone rank worn in addition to Canadian rank? There is a precedent for that in the Kiska tasking. Canadian officers wore US rank along side Canadian inisignia. But that is the other way around.
The point is that if the fellow is a Trinidadian o/c, he is not Canadian. Should he not have only his national insignia on the uniform?
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In Sierra Leone, the Canadian military wore the IMAT patch under the Canada flag along with RSLAF rank slides and titles. No Canadian rank or titles were worn.
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To draw the parallel, the Canadian serving as a Canadian in Sierra Leone was still identified as Canadian. The rank/ insignia appears to have been done to facilitate understanding who was who. I have seen images of Canadians on the deployment wearing their Canadian cap badges with the RSLAF slides. This may be the situation with the Trinidadian o/c.
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The person in the image appears to be wearing a T&T Naval cap badge, T&T flag with a Canadian Officer Cadet/CANADA slider, how is that any different from Canadians in IMAT who wore RSLAF rank slides?
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I can't see his cap badge in the image. The image is cut off just above the sweat band.
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If that is the case, it isn't different as far as the cap badge goes. But, the Canadian is identified as IMATT, and wears the Canada flag.
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So you are saying that he also needs to be wearing a CMTAP patch?
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Very interesting indeed! Do you know where the photo was taken?

Thanks for the info, good stuff.
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No, what I am saying is the Canadians in Sierra Leone were identified as Canadian by the nationality flag and their cap badges, their rank was identified by RSLAF slides, and the Canadians were also identifed as part of the IMATT contingent by their IMATT patches. That indicates they were there as a deployment, as compared to being part of the RSLAF.
Sorry Ed, what does the acronym CMTAP stand for?
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CMTAP - Canadian Military Training and Assistance Program which is what brings a Trinidad and Tobago Naval Officer Cadet to train in Canada.

So what I am saying is that the only thing which is different then an IMAT Canadian wearing RSLAF slides is that the Officer Cadet in the photograph is lacking a specialized patch, in this case CMTAP.
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