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#1
09-01-19, 08:35 AM
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14th Hussars or KRH
I have the 2 badges, seen below, which I believe are 14th Hussars, as they are missing the monogram/cypher on the chest. But why have I got them facing in different directions? The one facing right is by Firmins and the one facing left is Gaunt. Any info appreciated.
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#2
09-01-19, 08:54 AM
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They are both 14th/20th Hussars.
The KRH badges are taller. The one facing the 'wrong' way is a scarce badge and may be a maker's error when a collar badge has had a slider added by mistake. Last edited by Alan O; 09-01-19 at 11:03 AM. Reason: add 20th!
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09-01-19, 09:31 AM
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14th/20th Hussars sealed pattern 16/05/68
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#7
09-01-19, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
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I am still looking for British Army cloth Formation, Regimental, Battalion, Company and other Unit sleeve badges, from 1980 onwards.
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#8
09-01-19, 04:21 PM
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14/20H gold aa S&W LTD
Here is a gold anodised version. Maker marked SMITH & WRIGHT LTD
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#9
09-01-19, 05:58 PM
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The one which is facing right, faces the same way as the old 6th Gurkha rifles arm badge that was worn until the formation of the RGR.
Ive never actually had one of these facing rights,but it would appear to be painted rather than black anodised. Im sure that sometime ago,it was mentioned that the original black 14th / 20th anodised were painted. This was then later changed to black anodised. So we have gold then black painted with gold then black anodised with gold. This would imply that the righty was made around the time that the gold badge was being phased out and the black brought in. Im sure somebody mentioned a date for this occurrence.
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#10
09-01-19, 06:36 PM
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The now defunct Hussars and Light Dragoon Band wore paired eagles in gilt 'new metal'
Tim
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"Manui dat cognitio vires - Knowledge gives strength to the arm" "Better to know it but not need it than to need it and not know it!" "Have more than thou showest, speak less than thou knowest."
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#11
10-01-19, 08:25 AM
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Gents,
this incorrect facing eagle on the anodised 14/20 Hussars cap badge is somewhat of an anomaly obviously. They are found made gold with painted black and are made by Firmin stamped FIRMIN LONDON on the slider in the early small font. Firstly this badge is not made in error using the 6th Gurkha Rifles arm badge as these come in 2 die variations, neither of which are the die used on this cap badge. So it appears to have its own die. Curious. I have the colour/year variations in my notes as the follows:- 1964 - 1969 - gold anodised (found made with slider markings - Smith & Wright, Firmin London, Dowler Birmingham and a blank slidered example. 1969 - 1979 - black and gold, manufactured this way showing - Dowler Birmingham, Gaunt Birmingham, Firmin.London, LB&B and a blank slidered example (however many of the earlier gold ones were touch painted in black to conform to the new direction and not waste existing gold badges one would assume). 1979 - 1984 - cloth beret badge - although no doubt the anodised cap badge worn in the service cap. From 1984 until amalgamation the regular black and gold beret badge resumed use. Clearly there must variations on the above and those who wore this badge will doubtless have better knowledge of what was actually worn. I'm sure I saw 14/20 Hussars in Germany at the back end of the 1980's and fairly sure (certainly on exercise) I saw the cloth 'Ulster' being worn in the beret. Again chaps, happy to be corrected. Regards all and best wishes for 2019 Bess Last edited by bess55; 10-01-19 at 08:27 AM. Reason: correction
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#13
10-01-19, 10:09 AM
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It's a King's Royal Hussars beret badge in brass. First worn circa 2006-07 and still in use today. I did ask a KRH officer about it and he said it came about because of an idea of a new CO.
The black version remains in use on No1 Dress caps.
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