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Old 15-06-20, 03:16 AM
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Does anybody know when the hexagonal style flat lugs we’re introduced on shoulder titles please? I’ve always thought they were after WW1 possibly 20s-30s?
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Old 15-06-20, 05:38 AM
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I've had in the past a DRAKE shoulder title with hexagonal lugs, which I've read disbanded in 1919?
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Old 15-06-20, 06:06 AM
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Here's a previous thread where they were described as "coffin" shaped, more dramatic perhaps but with hindsight less easy to search for.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...hlight=hexagon

They also appear on the Imperial Crown collar badges used by many Regiments from the 1870s until ?

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Thanks gents longer than I thought it came about from a conversation with a fellow collector regarding a spurious T4 Norfolk title in white metal. It was was a wrongun I’m sure as was he. One of the things I didn’t like was the lugs but you’re always at school.
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Old 15-06-20, 10:17 AM
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Certainly before the Anglo Boer War.


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Does anybody know when the hexagonal style flat lugs we’re introduced on shoulder titles please? I’ve always thought they were after WW1 possibly 20s-30s?
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See this J R GAUNT catalogue circa 1900-1910.

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/...nts-catalogue/

Scroll down about 5 pages to Number 106 which shows their hexagonal lug design.

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Thanks gents longer than I thought it came about from a conversation with a fellow collector regarding a spurious T4 Norfolk title in white metal. It was was a wrongun I’m sure as was he. One of the things I didn’t like was the lugs but you’re always at school.
Was not white metal , but cast brass
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Hi Andrew the finish looked white metal in the eBay picture. Either way I didn’t like it nor did Peter S.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373078845555
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Old 15-06-20, 05:23 PM
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Interesting description!


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Ive had a look at a lot of Cavalry shoulder titles for regiments that were amalgamated in 1922 which would suggest that the shoulder titles were made before 1922 (in theory).

All of the Ors titles have hex lugs however the smaller officers titles have normal round copper lugs.

I hope that this will help.

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