New TRFs? Royal Tank Regiment and Small Arms School Corps

[Stafford Knot]

I spotted these two TRFs for sale and wondered if they are genuine issue.

The first is said to be the TRF for the Royal Tank Regiment. It's the right regimental colours but vertically aligned. References show that the RTR have taken to using an outline of a WW1 tank as their TRF, so I question whether this is a TRF at all. Bill Thomas's pamphlet on Cloth Beret badges suggests it could be Westminster Dragoons helmet badge.

The second is said to belong to the Small Arms School Corps. The stripes are the regimental colours but horizontal as opposed to the former TRF that has them vertically (See Robin Hodges book). I doubt this is an official TRF either as the Army website shows SASC personnel wearing a TRF showing the crossed muskets/vVickers gun on olive as a TRF.

Anyone able to shed any light on this?