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Old 26-03-21, 08:18 PM
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Gents, whilst I'm happy with this suffolk Regt cap badge, is anyone able to roughly date this lugged version? I suspect just pre WW1?

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Old 26-03-21, 09:20 PM
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Well, here are two examples of earlier badges. As can be seen, there is a big difference in quality.
The reverse of your badge has braze holes which I would expect to see, but the quality of strike is quite poor, leaving me to doubt that is a genuine badge.

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Old 26-03-21, 10:02 PM
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Thanks CB.

It may be the case that the badge is very mucky. I'll give it a light clean and see if the features sharpen up.
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Old 26-03-21, 11:20 PM
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In my opinion, no badge should be presented for appraisal without having been cleaned up. It is not just you, but many others.
Some feel that a badge should be left untouched, but this is a fallacy that is not conducive to the preservation nor appreciation of a given badge.
Patina is one thing; dirt, built up old polish, and corrosion another.

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Old 27-03-21, 07:35 AM
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Hi Bess, these KC Suffolk badges with loops ( clean or otherwise ) are usually described as Edwardian, so pre WW1 is just about spot on.

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Old 27-03-21, 10:22 AM
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Many thanks. I'm always a bit loathed to clean these, but as mentioned above, getting some of the grime off may liven it up a bit for a more accurate examination.

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QUOTE=thursdaychris;543865]Hi Bess, these KC Suffolk badges with loops ( clean or otherwise ) are usually described as Edwardian, so pre WW1 is just about spot on.[/QUOTE]
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Old 27-03-21, 06:49 PM
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Have given it a light scrub and removed most of the muck from the face. What do we think now chaps?
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Old 27-03-21, 08:08 PM
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I thought it was ok ?
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Old 27-03-21, 08:14 PM
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It’s genuine.

I would not have cleaned it.

For those who like bright shiny badges I suggest collecting staybrites.
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It’s genuine.

I would not have cleaned it.

For those who like bright shiny badges I suggest collecting staybrites.
Could not agree less. As for staybrites....

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Old 28-03-21, 07:01 AM
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Ah well, Bess, clean or dirty, dull or shiny, there is a space for it in my small collection. I do actually need another one of these, if you feel inclined to move it on, how does £15, grab you ???
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Old 28-03-21, 07:25 AM
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This particular badge was authorised in October 1901.
An official remit of June 1906 authorised the "vertical shank" - ie 'slider' for all units.
However, loops were used by troops wearing side caps mostly in India.
also TF battalions also used loops for the same reason
The same appeared in the 1930s - whenever the side cap made a come back - not sure of the exact date


So, in theory your badge should date between 1901 and 1906.....


(and I wouldn't "clean" it either)
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Old 28-03-21, 08:04 AM
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Many thanks, that helps. I only lightly cleaned off the dirt and dust.

Its not for sale I'm afraid Chris - its not a spare.

Thanks all, happily dated and authenticated.

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Old 28-03-21, 09:01 AM
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A nice badge that has been worn.


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Old 28-03-21, 09:21 AM
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Bess nice badge
l ways give mine a light clean with soapy water even badges well into 4 figures -I also have a very large collection of very shiny anodised/staybright badges which I also clean with soapy water to remove dirt .They become even more shiny Not a fan of dirt ,
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