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suffolk regiment badges opinions welcome
Hello All, I have been collecting british badges since the early 70's it's changed a bit now and with all the restrike/fakes about it feels that we are now in the position of the nazi german stuff when I started, we all get caught now and again but I think I may have discarded nearly as many good badges thinking they were not right the old advise about clean strikes and look for faults is not always correct, and I have found the forum very useful although i'm not sure I would be confident to give my opinion without having hold of the badge, but I think it's time I put up a few badges for opinion and perhaps discussion.
I am starting with a twin tower officer's osd it came with a matching pair of collars I have never been overly happy with king's crown twins and don't really know why this example should exist and the backs plus the lack of a makers marks does not helpIMG_20201221_192159.jpg IMG_20201221_192254.jpg |
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Looks like a nice genuine one to me.
Andy
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Twin tower OSD Suffolk
This badge looks good, there are sprigs under the scroll which the other ranks originals did have, whether this is good for OSD's I don't know.
Rob Last edited by Sonofacqms; 30-12-20 at 08:58 AM. |
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The badge is fine. There were many makers of OSD badges, and unmarked ones are just as common, if not more so, than those marked. One cannot apply the same criteria to officer badges relative to OR badges when it comes to details.
CB
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Thank you for your comments, here are some more I am quite happy with the qvc but not so sure about why the economy is blackened although it seems to be the same strike as the otherIMG_20201223_194015.jpg
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Nice OSD - try and look at other examples, you may find a marked one of the same die.
"All GM" badges had to have new dies because they were only one metal. |
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Hi Neil, I am extraordinarily pleased to see someone else's Suffolk badges, and I am most impressed with your two tower OSD. I would gladly trade the wife and eldest son for this badge, if you ever feel like parting with it. I did actually pay, way over the odds, yesterday, for the bimetal version of this, and I'm thinking that the OSD badge would keep it company, nicely.
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The OSD castle looks, to me at least, added and not cast originally with the badge.
It might be the photo and I could be wrong, which is fine, but it looks tampered with. Remember, the 'Gibraltar' (3 tower) castle was ordered for the badges in 1900, a year or two before OSD. The early lugged KC badges also have the 3 tower, so I am sceptical. Neil. |
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Neil that could get confusing. Your thoughts about why a twin tower should exist when osd dates from 1902 mirrors mine but I don't believe the tower is added I shall put up a picture of the matching collars later.
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I'm not sure what you mean ?
The 3 tower badge dates from 1901, so OSD badges should really have 3 towers. As below. Neil. Last edited by Parabellum; 24-12-20 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Added photo |
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No confusion about your comment on why a twin tower should exist post 1902 just the fact that we are both neils.
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Sorry Neil, my bad
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Twin tower collars same pattern as cap I have had the set some time never seen one before nor since don't know if that's good or bad.
IMG_20201224_150331.jpg IMG_20201224_150402.jpg as a comparison a silver officers IMG_20201224_150555.jpg IMG_20201224_150614.jpg and two triple tower IMG_20201224_150743.jpg IMG_20201224_150804.jpg I take it chris, the wife isn't a member of the forum |
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Well, it gets better and better, a matching set, no less, I would have thought that these would have been seen somewhere before, the individual parts, thereof, at the very least. If these did turn out to be some kind of one off, how did they come about, I wonder?
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I was under the firm impression that the documentation for this badge had been unearthed in research and that the order instructing the change to KC from QVC also included direction to alter the castle from the regimental design to the standard one.
Thus both changes occurred at the same time and there was no Edwardian 2 tower OR variant. The date as I recall was 1902 or ‘03. I think it another thread it was agreed that officers badges with a KC and 2 towers could exist, albeit briefly, and that this is what the badge in KK likely is. And as discussed the 2 tower OR KC badge often encountered is a WW1 manufacturing error. Hopefully Julian sees this and can either confirm the above or tell me I need to see a doctor in the new year! |
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