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Old 02-08-20, 06:38 AM
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Thanks C.B. the reason the badge is missing most likely.
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Old 02-08-20, 09:45 AM
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The badge itself would be worth 75 in today's collecting climate! I should add that the badge was a plain silver quoit, or a quoit surmounted with the POW feathers, depending upon the specific battalion.

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I should not have skipped the possibility of a post 1922 regiment. My fault.

Wouldn't the badge have been something like this for most of the battalions:
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I should not have skipped the possibility of a post 1922 regiment. My fault.

Wouldn't the badge have been something like this for most of the battalions:
Yes, I forgot that one of the 11th battalions did have that unknown to me thing surmounting the quoit. Most battalions wore the plain quoit only.
I find that the vast majority of British Indian uniform items date from the post 1922 period and even they are scarce. Pre 22 items are are rare.

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Old 25-08-20, 09:32 AM
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Thanks to Billy for starting this thread and negotiating with the dealer in order to obtain this cap for me at a price lower than the one originally set - and for packaging and posting it to me, inconveniencing himself for no personal gain.

A few more images of the cap, I think the badge which was fitted to the left side of the curtain was a quoit with a device projecting above but I'm not sure.

The badge possibilities depending on battalion as far as I can determine - a plain unadorned quoit about 4.5 cm diameter, lugs 2.5 cm apart, or a quoit with, at the top the device I've forgotten the name of despite having read of it very recently - a double edged blade?

I may be wrong here, but could other options include a quoit with crown above, a quoit with "XI" in the centre or a quoit with "SIKH" in the centre (Depot?).

Written in the cap is "R.H.B.R.", presumably the original owners initials.

Can anyone assist with details of this officer please?
The closest I've found online is a "R.H.R." who was in a non-Sikh regiment.
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Old 25-08-20, 09:51 AM
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This is the badge that I understand was worn by the Sikh Light Infantry who were raised in 1941.
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Old 25-08-20, 10:02 AM
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Thanks, yes, I've come across that identified as Sikh LI (although on one occasion it was labelled as 11th Sikh Regiment, an identification that appears to be wrong).
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Old 25-08-20, 10:31 AM
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We are discussing here (battalions of) the 11th Sikh Regiment. later The Sikh Regiment (until date).
11th Sikh Regiment

The other one is the Sikh Light Infantry (until date), which is seen as perpetuating 3rd Sikh Pioneers.
3rd Sikh Pioneers

As you can see, several of the badges in use by both regiments and their predecessors have the "dagger" on the Quoit. It is a kirpan Kirpan
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Thanks - by double edged dagger I'm thinking of the device as per that at the top of the 11th Sikhs quoit.
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The badge with the single knife like attachment is for the post war Sikh LI. I am not at all sure this badge design was worn earlier.

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Old 26-08-20, 07:47 AM
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Yes, the quoit with "blade" I'm thinking of is the one shown in post 17.

The closest I've got to identifying "R.H.B.R." is an officer named Captain Ronald Herbert Roe, born 27/6/1914, son of Herbert Basset Roe and Alice Margaret Roe.
Serving with the 1st Battalion of the16th Punjab Regiment he was killed on 14/11/1943 and is commemorated on the Rangoon Memorial.
Even assuming that there may be a "B......" before the "Roe" then he seems an unlikely candidate given the cap's buttons specifying "Sikh Regiment".
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The closest I've got to identifying "R.H.B.R." is an officer named Captain Ronald Herbert Roe, born 27/6/1914, son of Herbert Basset Roe and Alice Margaret Roe.
Serving with the 1st Battalion of the16th Punjab Regiment he was killed on 14/11/1943 and is commemorated on the Rangoon Memorial.
Even assuming that there may be a "B......" before the "Roe" then he seems an unlikely candidate given the cap's buttons specifying "Sikh Regiment".
Given that his father was a Herbert as well, it's not too much of a stretch to imagine 'Basset' was also carried across as a family name, which would give you the required initials. Obviously doesn't help with the Sikh connection though.

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Old 26-08-20, 12:51 PM
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Could be that "Basset" was the father's mother's maiden name carried over as a middle name.

When first examining the cap for a badge outline I had actually wondered if the quoit was thicker at the bottom than at the top, give me enough time and I'll convince myself that the badge was that of the 16th Punjab.
But the buttons get in the way of that theory.
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Old 11-11-20, 12:18 PM
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A somewhat similar cap, albeit with a black vent and blue instead of green piping:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Military-...0AAOSwX9Neu8cO
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The badge is the post 1950 one from The Rajputana Rifles.
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