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Old 07-06-20, 12:38 PM
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Good afternoon,

I have recently found some 1914-18 medals, all attributed

The first 1914-15 Star : No2409 Sowar Shah Sowar Khan, 10/Lncrs
The second one : 14038 Pte. D. Clarkson. R.Scots

The first War Medal : 8824 Cpl. S. Dymond. E. Surr.
The second one : Pte. V. G. Wilson. 1st S. A. I. Bgde

The Inter-Allied Victory Medal : 2783 Sowar Kala Khan 17 Cavy

Would it be possible to obtain some informations about these soldiers ?

Thank you

Laurent
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Old 07-06-20, 12:43 PM
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Clarkson was in the 1st Battalion of The Royal Scots.
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Old 07-06-20, 12:49 PM
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Laurent

Here is the link for the National Archives Medal Index Card search facility, you will be able to find out basic details regarding each individual from here with links to other avenues of research. There is a charge but unless you have Ancestry or FMP access this is the easiest way to start your research.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...rds-1914-1920/

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Old 07-06-20, 12:50 PM
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First Name:
S
Surname:
Dymond
Report Date:
04/05/1915
Information:
Listed as "Wounded" on the Casualty List issued by the War Office from the 4th May 1915.
Further Information:
This man was entitled to wear a "Wound Stripe" as authorised under the Army Order 204 of 6th July 1916. The terms of this award being met by their naming in this list.
Rank:
Private
Service Number:
8824
Duty Location:
France and Flanders
Service:
British Army
Primary Unit:
East Surrey Regiment
Secondary Unit:
2nd Battalion
Archive Reference:
DT21051915

First Name:
Sidney
Surname:
Dymond
Regiments served with:
Unit Rank Service Number
East Surrey Regiment Private 8824
Hampshire Regiment Private 20043
Archive Reference:
WO 372/6/137635
(Can be found at The National Archives in Kew, and contains First World War, War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index)
Collection:
Nominal index of all service personnel serving in a theatre of war 1914-1919
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Thank you for these useful precisions

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Sidney Dymond was wounded (GSW) in the face arm and hip. He is listed as a SJT in the admission and discharge book (under second reg no 20043) which gives his company Letter etc. There is some more info from his Pension records attached.

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Thank you for these documents

Could you confirm that the Indian medals are for 17th Indian Cavalry (Regiment ?) and 10th Lancers (Duke of Cambridge's Own Lancers (Hodson's Horse) ?)

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2409 KHAN may well have been 10th Bengal Lancers, as you suggest, though I cant find a medal card for him. What's interesting with this medal is that it has two ranks (sowar) and two surnames (shah/khan). Not sure why this is. As for the other medal, i can't find his index card either. The only name with that reg no. I found was for infantry. I have another look though.
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Thank you for your researches
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I doubt you will find anything on the Indian medals unless they are VCOs. Records for a sowar are very unlikely unless you find the the medal roll, which for Indian recepients has so far been impossible. The 10th Lancers if ofcourse Hodsons Horse. The naming is odd. The rank - sowar - is repeated. Khan is a surname, but Shah is often used as first or last name.

I would have liked to buy the medal except that in these covid times it's one hell of a task shipping stuff to India.
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Adding to my earlier reply..the name seemed to ring a bell and found I have a Victorian medal named to a 1059
Lance Daffafar Shah Sower, 13 Bengal Lcrs.. different people of course but maybe a spelling mistake. The name might be SHAH SOWER KHAN.
Have queried this on my local medal forum..will get back..
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These are not the man in question but they do illustrate that Sowar Khan was used as a name.

C.W.G.C. entries.

SOWAR KHAN. Follower. 97. 07 January 1917. NAIROBI BRITISH AND INDIAN MEMORIAL. Indian Railways.

SOWAR KHAN. Sepoy. 2419. 13 January 1916. BASRA MEMORIAL. Panel 53.
56th Punjabi Rifles (Frontier Force).

SOWAR KHAN. Sapper. 612. 13 June 1919. DELHI MEMORIAL (INDIA GATE)
Face 26. Indian Signal Corps.
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These are not the man in question but they do illustrate that Sowar Khan was used as a name.

C.W.G.C. entries.

SOWAR KHAN. Follower. 97. 07 January 1917. NAIROBI BRITISH AND INDIAN MEMORIAL. Indian Railways.

SOWAR KHAN. Sepoy. 2419. 13 January 1916. BASRA MEMORIAL. Panel 53.
56th Punjabi Rifles (Frontier Force).

SOWAR KHAN. Sapper. 612. 13 June 1919. DELHI MEMORIAL (INDIA GATE)
Face 26. Indian Signal Corps.
Thanks Simon! Though I feel thats not the way the first name should be rendered.. probably a translation error. I've never heard of a Muslim name called 'sowar'
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