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Old 05-06-21, 05:38 AM
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I can certainly see that "test" badges be made sterile, but once approved why would badges for service use not be named by the manufacturer? Every single item in service is marked with the makers mark. Seems odd.

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The MOD class it as advertising, Firmins had to alter the printing on their plastic packets. No company names on there either.
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Old 05-06-21, 11:38 AM
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Colin,

I have the two you mention and I have always viewed the blank slidered example with suspicion. The marked Gaunt example I have, has clear signs of wear.

As also discussed above the generic 'plumes' are used on several anodised cap badges (with maker die variations) having the relevant scrolls added - with slight variations on the actual specific design:-

Caernarvon & Denbigh Yeo
Cheshire Yeo
Flint & Denbigh Yeo
Pembroke Yeo
Welsh Regt
10 Hussars

The question is, did this practise occur? I.e. use the same plume and add a scroll - because most are NOT added via a backing plate but are integral to the piece. I.e. not a two part badge.

I also have - what at first appears to be a Wilts Yeo cap badge, but has 2 small lug/pins at the bottom of the scroll each side on the rear- so clearly had a scroll attached at some point. However which regiment?- this is made more curious as the maker is R A HUGHES - a very early anodised maker. My guess is the larger Pembroke Yeo ( which I don't have).

Incidentally my anodised Lancs Fusiliers is unmarked but fairly certain it's a Timings made badge.

If I recall all badges post 2012 'SHOULD' be unmarked by the maker and some time shortly after the packaging too - hence the obviously FIRMIN bags with no maker name.

With regards to the C&D Yeomanry cap badge, AZAM'S made an anodised copy. I attach the abomination for your interest.

Regards all

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Old 05-06-21, 01:17 PM
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Here is an extract from the relevant MOD contract specifications document. While it is clear that badges and packaging should not show makers marks or details, no reason is given. The change was effective from 2012 but of course some marked badges and packaging remained in the system for a few more years.

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...if anyone is interested :-

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The Flintshire, and Denbighshire Yeomanry, RA, TA. (1967-71) A/A Cap & Collars
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Scarce collars but not worth anywhere near that .
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Scarce collars but not worth anywhere near that .
....what's your valuation Mike?
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£35-£40 Griff, if I had a pair for sale. I think that's what the last pair of these went for that I saw.

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£35-£40 Griff, if I had a pair for sale. I think that's what the last pair of these went for that I saw.
....wish I had seen them at the time.
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....wish I had seen them at the time.
Saw the cap badge today at Malvern £275
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Presumably that may why it remains on the dealers' table and not sold.
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Saw the cap badge today at Malvern £275
Its a rare one.... it was never worn..... probably not even issued just kept in stores. The collars were issued though, somewhere in the ether there are a pair of Officers silver/gilt collars. I have not seen them yet.... but they are out there.
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Its a rare one.... it was never worn..... probably not even issued just kept in stores. The collars were issued though, somewhere in the ether there are a pair of Officers silver/gilt collars. I have not seen them yet.... but they are out there.
Theres always collars turning up ,theres a few that I'm after from small units
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THe cap badge was never issued or worn RA cap F8D collars I served as the storeman Flint TA in the 60s
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THe cap badge was never issued or worn RA cap F8D collars I served as the storeman Flint TA in the 60s
Many thanks for confirming that Gus

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