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Old 14-01-20, 02:50 PM
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Hello All, could I have some help in identifying this XX1V (collar badge ?) please. The size is approximately 2mm bigger than a 1 pound coin.
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Old 14-01-20, 02:56 PM
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The magic number, twenty four, complete with that famous wreath.


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Hello All, could I have some help in identifying this XX1V (collar badge ?) please. The size is approximately 2mm bigger than a 1 pound coin.
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Old 14-01-20, 03:03 PM
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Worn by the South Wales Borderers from the 1960s until 1969 when amalgamated into the Royal Regiment of Wales.

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Thank you very much guys, I bow to your superior knowledge and expertise.
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Old 14-01-20, 03:22 PM
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Interesting, I didn't realise that clutch pin fittings were in use on British army insignia as early as 1969 (I first noticed them in the mid - late 1970's).
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Old 14-01-20, 03:33 PM
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Members of the regiment serving with the UN in Korea.
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Interesting, I didn't realise that clutch pin fittings were in use on British army insignia as early as 1969 (I first noticed them in the mid - late 1970's).
Modern copy/repro ?
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Old 14-01-20, 04:19 PM
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I don't know, I don't know when the fittings came in, just I'd not seen them in use until the 70's.
Could the badge still have been in use for some purpose post the 1969 SWB and The Welch Regiment amalgamation, in RRW, The Royal Welsh?
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Taking a closer look it is perhaps an officers collar badge (not anodised). I have seen LOYALs officers collar badges with clutch pin fittings and from the 1960s. At that time officers purchased their uniforms and badges from various military tailors and there were differences in manufacture.

See https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ghlight=loyals

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Old 14-01-20, 04:58 PM
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I'd agree that the badge looks more like a silvered metal than an anodised aluminium one.
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Old 14-01-20, 05:28 PM
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A lot of SWB badges sold at auction and photo (rear of badges) shows a couple with similar fittings to those in first post.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...6-a539015bf9c9
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Members of the regiment serving with the UN in Korea.
The SWB soldiers are wearing the Honour Guard shoulder title carrying out duties at Panmunjom, North Korea.

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Old 14-01-20, 05:35 PM
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I dare say you would want more than a pound coin for it?


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Worn by the South Wales Borderers from the 1960s until 1969 when amalgamated into the Royal Regiment of Wales.

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Hi,
Also worn by the 2nd battalion Monmouthshire regiment.
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Old 14-01-20, 05:41 PM
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When anodised aluminium badges first came in,the powers that be were going to use clutch pins rather than lugs.
As we have already discussed a/a wasnt loved and the pins are rather fragile. They will have had queues outside the QMs asking for replacements . The change to lugs would have been rather quick. I have paperwork suggesting that the buttons ended up ruined through the use of brasso on them and that brass buttons should be reinstated.
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