Some SAS and whole bunch of fake Selous Scouts stuff

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Only one of the Selous Scouts para wings is period genuine. Everything else that is supposed to be Rhodesian is fake. I have notified the seller.
The army shoulder patches are made by Andrew Butler and are still sold by him as copies. The period genuine Selous Scouts para wing #0826 was never issued.
Hardly a grouping that can be attributed as the seller claims and asking £600.

See photos.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MakeTrack=true

$_12-(7).jpg

$_12-(1).jpg

$_12-(5).jpg

$_12-(4).jpg

$_12-(6).jpg

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Peter,
This sort of thing really does annoy me, there is just no need for it, the badges and in particular, the collars, are awful, £600 is lot of money for so much rubbish!
Regards Frank

[ruwa]

Hi Peter, did you get a response from the seller?

[manchesters]

Listing now ended!

[rhodesianmilitaria]

This morning I have a message from the seller.
He states that he has ended the listing and will shortly list items separately so that the detail will be easier to see. This obviously means the fakes will be easier to see.
He also stated that it wasn't his intention to mislead.

I will wait to see what is relisted.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

The seller Michael Burroughs of Cambridgeshire has relisted all of his items again but this time separately.
All are fakes, copies, reproductions or whatever you want to call them.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MakeTrack=true

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/silver-rh...MakeTrack=true

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/vintage-r...E:B:SS:AU:3160

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/vintage-s...E:B:SS:AU:3160

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/vintage-g...f4c3b74&_uhb=1

[David Tremain]

Some of it looks ghastly, especially those collar dogs. No wonder there are no bids!

David

[Frank Kelley]

He describes them as "vintage" two bids on them now!

Originally Posted by David Tremain

Some of it looks ghastly, especially those collar dogs. No wonder there are no bids!

David

[rhodesianmilitaria]

The Seller to me:
"i really dont understand your problem i have shown photographs front and back with a description the best to my ability"
mike

My reply:
"Mike,
A misleading description is when you do not state that they are copies when they are copies.

Regards,
Peter"

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Peter,
Sadly, all too common these days, some people, including dealers, just seem to have a problem with the word copy, either that, or they are convinced the item in question is the real thing.
Of course, maybe this seller is merely dishonest!
Regards Frank

Peter,

Nice one, thank you for highlighting that these items are fakes/copies.

Cheers,
Marcus

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Received this uninspiring message from Mike (mike1060_1) the seller tonight. All punctuation is his.

"i am sure they are real / original best regards mike"

My reply which I am positive will be the last.

"Hello Mike,
I'm always amazed when people like yourself who have little or no knowledge of Rhodesian items then want to tell a person like myself who had a 48 page website dedicated to Rhodesian militaria, what is period genuine and what is not.
If you can't tell the difference between the rubbish copies you are selling as genuine and the actual ones that are genuine then God help you because I certainly can't.
Regards,
Peter"

RhArmy-patches.jpg

[Frank Kelley]

Sadly Peter, this is often the attitude of some dealers who just simply don't know what they are doing when it comes to badges, then again, some do, of course, know exactly what they are doing!

Originally Posted by rhodesianmilitaria

Received this uninspiring message from Mike (mike1060_1) the seller tonight. All punctuation is his.

"i am sure they are real / original best regards mike"

My reply which I am positive will be the last.

"Hello Mike,
I'm always amazed when people like yourself who have little or no knowledge of Rhodesian items then want to tell a person like myself who had a 48 page website dedicated to Rhodesian militaria, what is period genuine and what is not.
If you can't tell the difference between the rubbish copies you are selling as genuine and the actual ones that are genuine then God help you because I certainly can't.
Regards,
Peter"

Attachment 105317

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Sold by Michael Burroughs (mike1060_1) for a total of £207 (AU $377.72). He was informed by me that all of these items were fakes or copies. He did not add anything I said to his listings and never changed the description of any of his listings.
In his original listing, Item # 201079917389 he stated that these items "formerly belonging to the same man, a member of the selous scouts." He has never named this person.

Fake Selous Scouts officer's beret badge Item #390830483116
Sold for £62 (AU $112.93).

$_12 (12).JPG$_12 (13).JPG

Fake Selous Scouts officer's collar badges Item #390830423015
Sold for £73 (AU $132.96).

$_12 (10).JPG $_12 (11).JPG

Fake Selous Scouts OR's beret badge Item #390830486339
Sold for £45.11 (AU $82.16).

$_12 (9).JPG

Fake Rhodesian Army shoulder patches # 390830236476
Sold for £21 (AU $38.25).

$_121.JPG

Fake SAS or RhSAS para wing # 390830242676
Sold for £6.27 (AU $11.42).

$_12 (8).JPG

I have informed this seller that he is deceitful and dishonest. As usual I have received the 'usual' verbal rubbish back from him that I normally get from these types of people.
I'm used to it.

Caveat Emptor!