Riots and use of the Armed Forces

[Phil2M]

Morning simon, 7am and on the forum, thats keen, lol.

[LONGSHANKS]

Yeah, up early this morning. Thought I'd beat the traffic.

Simon..

[Phil2M]

Yes I think that would be a good idea to make them part timers. Would help save the economy a bit. Insurance payouts for tottenham are goinh to be astronomical and the government will end up paying a share.

[LONGSHANKS]

Well, I remember my when my parents lived in france for a few years. I spoke with an old Frenchman in a local cafe and told me when he was in Paris in the 60's he saw them in action. He said it reminded him of the Roman Legion. Five deep shield wall.
The officer in charge on the a megaphone announced to clear the street in 10 minutes, or all present would considered reactionary and would be dealt with accordingly. And by all accounts it was over in about two hours. I tend to think, the Brit's need to join the modern age and prepare for more of this over the coming decades. Especially with the economy etc and the changing social structure of the UK within that area in particular.

Simon.

[jeanpit-frenchy]

i read that in UK police , no riot special unit ?

in my unit (Gendarmerie) about 2 on 3 gendarmes start for 5 or 6 years in Gendarmerie mobil (like CRS)

you can found below a link about the job and training of theses units at ST ASTIER , we learn here special technique and tactical manoeuvre

you can see training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC1xN...eature=related

i imagine your police without special materials and training....

[LONGSHANKS]

Hi Frenchy, exactly on the mark. I think high time the Brit's catch up and get with the program. Quite a fearsome bunch. As I said, even the mention they were on there way would clear a street.

Simon.

[Phil2M]

Theyve just kicked off in my local high street now.

[ebro]

While we have such stupid human rights laws the vandals and wreckers can do what they like. The police are afraid to act as they will finish up being sued.
Special units should be ready , trained and mobile. During quiet periods they could be available to assist in drug raids, imagration raids etc.
But the government and the courts must give the police and special units their full support and not sympathise with the poor little man, woman or child who was injured while in the middle of a crowd that was attacking the police or property.
Eddie

[Traist]

Originally Posted by ebro

While we have such stupid human rights laws the vandals and wreckers can do what they like. The police are afraid to act as they will finish up being sued.
Special units should be ready , trained and mobile. During quiet periods they could be available to assist in drug raids, imagration raids etc.
But the government and the courts must give the police and special units their full support and not sympathise with the poor little man, woman or child who was injured while in the middle of a crowd that was attacking the police or property.
Eddie

Well said.

[2747andy]

With 16,000 Policemen on the streets of London tonight, I think one or two young thugs might just get an introduction to Mr. Truncheon? I hope so anyway!

Andy

[Phil2M]

Originally Posted by ebro

While we have such stupid human rights laws the vandals and wreckers can do what they like. The police are afraid to act as they will finish up being sued.
Special units should be ready , trained and mobile. During quiet periods they could be available to assist in drug raids, imagration raids etc.
But the government and the courts must give the police and special units their full support and not sympathise with the poor little man, woman or child who was injured while in the middle of a crowd that was attacking the police or property.
Eddie

Absolutely

Mr truncheon, lol.

[rockape560]

hi all,

just seen new armoured police vehs in use on the news,maybe this is all to late.

dont know why rubber bullets and water cannon heve not been used so far as the are frquently used here in n ireland and we are part of the uk.

just hope all members that are in the affected areas are all ok

philip

[ebro]

Andy,
As we know from Northern Ireland the use of a trunteon is not very effective against bricks, petrol bombs or other thrown objects.
A fast moving, well padded mobile support unit is required to Disperse the mob, take out the rabble rousers, recover any unthrown objects.
This squad requires the help of water canon, ruber/plastic roundands, and
cover by armed officers but, most importantly, they need the support of the entire government and population at large.
The ordinary London Bobby should not be put in that situation with or without his truncheon.
Eddie

[2747andy]

Eddie,
I agree a little, however my point is that most of these thugs have probably never had their bottoms smacked never mind having a couple of lashings of a truncheon or baton... Crack a few heads and they'll soon go back to their X boxes, or ones they stole the night before! Never mind water cannon, tear gas and baton rounds.... a show of who's boss tonite should calm this down! (I Hope!) Our Policemen are well upto it, I'm sure, they just need to be backed afterwards, when they dish out what is needed

Andy

[Phil2M]

I think, unfortuneately, they would get hung out to dry.