Royal Warwicks J. R. Gaunt & Son variant?

['Ticker' Riley]

As some Forum members will know my main area of collecting, and research, is the Leicestershire Regiment’s tiger cap badges, though I do have an interest in the badges of a few other regiments including the Royal Warwicks; hence why I am posting up a composite picture (front & back) of this badge:

Warwicks Gaunt.jpg

I am hoping that someone can confirm, or otherwise, that this A/A badge was actually worn and when please? Although unmarked I believe it is the J. R. Gaunt & Son makers’ variant, but wonder why it is not marked as such, and if any such badges do bear that manufacturer’s name? There may well be answers to these questions in Chris Marsh’s excellent book, but I do not have a copy myself, and I don’t know if he is still active on here. It may also be, of course, that all of this has already been discussed, in which case perhaps someone would be kind enough to direct me to such a thread? Thank you.

Regards

Martin

[Mike H]

Hi Martin,ive never come across a marked example of a Royal Warwicks ano badge. As far as i know nobody else has either.
I would put it as a collectors item rather than a genuine issued item.

[Luke H]

I believe it’s a ‘Gaylor fake’ per the recently coined term.

See here…

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=79802

and here…

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...563#post516563

[bess55]

Martin, Im with the chaps on this one. Its a badge that does turn up, unmarked and always immaculate condition. Highly likely a Gaylor made affair - there are other cap badges made in a similar way. Its possible they were made for a reunion or something, but doubtful.

The only badge I know that was worn, was by the Warwickshire Fusiliers in anodised alluminium. Distinguishable from other RRF badges as it has small round wire lugs. Worn with the orange and blue hackle.

[leigh kitchen]

3dg may chip in here, the round lug version of the Fus Bde / RRF Badge was worn by the regiments of the Fusilier Bde, the later flat pierced blade type lugged by RRF, but he's discovered some interesting info concerning dates of use.

[grey_green_acorn]

The ‘round lugged’ early Fusilier Brigade badge.

Tim

[Alan O]

I am afraid that is is from the same Gaylor stable of fakes such as the large FIfe and Forfar and the Loyal Suffolk Hussars Yeomanry cap badges. They have been sold for £50+ in the past as genuine badges. Chris Marsh states that an a/a badge was authorised but he was unable to find a gneuine one so showed a bi-metal one in his book.

[dubaiguy]

Originally Posted by grey_green_acorn

The ‘round lugged’ early Fusilier Brigade badge.

Tim

So if I've got this right - the Warwickshire Fusiliers coming from the Forester Brigade to the Fusilier Brigade continued to wear the blue over gold (orange colour) hackle. But did they also wear their 'old' a/a antelope collars with the new 'round lugged' Fusilier badge?

I realize that later, in the formation of the RRF all battalions would be common in wearing the red over white hackle and grenade collars.

Mark

[3dg]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

3dg may chip in here, the round lug version of the Fus Bde / RRF Badge was worn by the regiments of the Fusilier Bde, the later flat pierced blade type lugged by RRF, but he's discovered some interesting info concerning dates of use.

I'll start a new thread soon regarding Fusilier Brigade badges if anyone is interested?
Sorry to hijack this thread.
Chris

[leigh kitchen]

Sounds good.