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Old 04-01-21, 09:39 PM
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Default Liverpool Scottish 8th. VB - Help required

I hope someone can help. I'm after a 8th. VB Liverpool Scottish badge (for someone else) It's outside my area of collecting, and I've been quite amazed at the shedload of these on eBay, particularly for such a short-lived unit . . . AND all purporting to be genuine. How would I go about spotting a kosher item? Any tips? And what is a fair ballpark price?

Any help would be much appreciated . . .

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Old 04-01-21, 09:52 PM
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The badge you after must be a 8th Vol Bn Glengarry badge (from 1901 to 1908) though there are many with screw posts worn on the NCO's badge had on their sporrans.
The officer's Glengarries were similar to the 1908 (TF) Glengarry badge but they were inscribed Scottish Liverpool.
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Old 05-01-21, 02:32 AM
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Thanks Julian,

This is the badge I'm after . . . currently on aBay. Don't know if it's a goodie or not.
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Old 05-01-21, 09:25 AM
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Almost all genuine examples are hall marked silver, I did have a complete pouch belt with white metal badges including the badge you are after but that was the only non hall marked example I have ever come across.

Some pictures in my albums.

You will be looking at £250-£350 for an example,

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Old 05-01-21, 10:56 AM
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Thanks Julian,

This is the badge I'm after . . . currently on aBay. Don't know if it's a goodie or not.
Everyone of these, variously described as WW1/Victorian, Pouch Belt/ Helmet Plate/Cap Badge on ebay is fake and always is.

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Old 05-01-21, 03:26 PM
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Aha, I thought you were after a headdress badge - as in a Glengarry badge. Actually, a similar badge you illustrated was worn on officer's feathers bonnet - probably also scarce. Yes, look at Peter's albums.
The badge you were after is a cross belt badge and as Peter and Manchesters both said correctly that they almost all are fakes.

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Old 06-01-21, 09:44 PM
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Gentlemen, thank you so much for your replies. What my brother is after, I now realise, is a pre TF glengarry badge. I assume this to be similar to the 1908-37 badge. Is this right?

Once again many thanks.

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Old 06-01-21, 10:16 PM
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Lawrence, what you appear to want is a badge to the 8th Volunteer Battalion of the King's Liverpool Regiment. It was a late-comer as it was founded in 1900. It was transformed as the 10th (Scottish Liverpool) Battalion in 1908 as part of the new Territorial Force (renamed Territorial army in 1920).


The 10th Bn Lpl Scottish survived in the King's Regiment until in 1937 when they were renamed again as the Liverpool Scottish (Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders) Battalion


S0 - what you want is this.....
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Lawrence, what you appear to want is a badge to the 8th Volunteer Battalion of the King's Liverpool Regiment. It was a late-comer as it was founded in 1900. It was transformed as the 10th (Scottish Liverpool) Battalion in 1908 as part of the new Territorial Force (renamed Territorial army in 1920).


The 10th Bn Lpl Scottish survived in the King's Regiment until in 1937 when they were renamed again as the Liverpool Scottish (Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders) Battalion


S0 - what you want is this.....
Thanks, Julian,

Apologies for being annoying, one last question. Was this badge worn with the standard glengarry QVC and backing plate configuration?

Well, two questions . . . roughly, what should I expect to pay for such a badge?

Thanks again - Lawrence
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Although I had an example with fixed Victorian crown, the badge was worn without a crown.

I would think you would be looking at around £100-£150 .

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Old 09-01-21, 09:25 AM
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Lawrence, if you brother would like a free copy of my book on badges of the Kings Liverpools Volunteers,Territorials and Cadets please PM me with an email address.

If he is on Facebook we would be welcome to join my private group “ The Kings Liverpool Regiment ( 1685-1958)”

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I have not found any evidence for a crowned 8VB glengarry badge. I do not believe that a QVC was ever attached to the 8VB circlet. Most Scottish circlets did not have a crown.


These badges were also worn on OR's sporrans - two EW loops for the Glengarry; two EW screw posts for the sporran.
Either one could go up to £100

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This is not my area of collecting but, as usual, a very interesting thread. Peter, Simon and Julian thank you providing such informative answers to fellow members.

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Old 12-01-21, 01:57 AM
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Many thanks, Julian, Peter and Simon. Really great stuff!

Peter, I shall pass on your details to Denis (My bro.)

Once again many thanks, and for your patience with my rather naïve questions.

Cheers - Lawrence
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