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Old 20-01-20, 04:27 PM
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I am not sure what the badges on his cap represent as the lower one appears to be a collar badge.
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Current day RM Officer [cap] badge is a 2 piece as per the photo.

However the 2 pieces are placed much closer together in a much more orderly manner.
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Old 20-01-20, 06:19 PM
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Thank you for that, I had thought that it was probably a two part part but it seemed strange that the two pieces were so far apart.

Is it possible to date the picture from the style of the uniform? I am thinking WW2 but I may be way out.
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High Wood,

Hope you don't mind me adding a photograph to your thread but this Officer appears to only wear a one piece badge, could anyone enlighten me as to the reason why please.

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The service support, engineering, and initially, labour elements of the Royal Marines, wore the plain globe and laurels badge, without any surmounting device, in order to differentiate from the RMA and RMLI. The burgeoning scale of labour requirements for the Royal Marines later led to a much larger labour force with its own cap badge. I suspect that your photo might show an officer of RM engineer services.

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Old 20-01-20, 10:13 PM
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Hope you don't mind me adding a photograph to your thread but this Officer appears to only wear a one piece badge, could anyone enlighten me as to the reason why please.

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I do not mind at all. I am sorry that i can't answer your question though.

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Hope you don't mind me adding a photograph to your thread but this Officer appears to only wear a one piece badge, could anyone enlighten me as to the reason why please.

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I think there is a KC there, its just dulled or somehow in shadow.
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I am not sure what the badges on his cap represent as the lower one appears to be a collar badge.
Looks to be standard Royal Marine Officer post 1923 cap badge - 2 parts - silver and gilt (also found in OSD) Kings Crown as suggested - by the laws of probability - a good chance WW2

This site gives more information under the appropriate section
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I think there is a KC there, its just dulled or somehow in shadow.
I am pretty sure that it is a King's crown.
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Looks to be standard Royal Marine Officer post 1923 cap badge - 2 parts - silver and gilt (also found in OSD) Kings Crown as suggested - by the laws of probability - a good chance WW2

This site gives more information under the appropriate section
https://rmhistorical.com/badge

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Thank you for the update; until this thread was posted I had no idea that R.M. officers had a two part badge. Looking at some of the post 1923 caps on the link that you posted, wearing the upper part of the badge much higher than the globe and laurels seems to have been a standard practice.

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The service support, engineering, and initially, labour elements of the Royal Marines, wore the plain globe and laurels badge, without any surmounting device, in order to differentiate from the RMA and RMLI. The burgeoning scale of labour requirements for the Royal Marines later led to a much larger labour force with its own cap badge. I suspect that your photo might show an officer of RM engineer services.
Many thanks, here is the photograph in full. (Apologies for the angle, not sure why its loaded in this manner).

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The officer in the first photo which started this thread is wearing an austerity pattern SD jacket authorised in 1942 which lacks the central pleat found in non-austerity jackets so it dates the photo to WWII.

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Not officer's but 2 seem to be RMA and the others just the wreath and globe.
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The officer in the first photo which started this thread is wearing an austerity pattern SD jacket authorised in 1942 which lacks the central pleat found in non-austerity jackets so it dates the photo to WWII.

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Old 21-01-20, 08:26 PM
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Attached below is a clip from the RM Officer's Dress Regs of 1934 showing that the lion and crown should be positioned half way up the rim which in itself should be stiffened and at an angle of 45 degrees. Given that the cap in question seems to have a large rim then that would explain the distance between the lion and crown and the globe and laurel.

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