Expensive Copy

[Stephen]

I'd of thought this should have sweat holes, the numbered slider is interesting

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/124482055465?ul_noapp=true

Stephen

[Luke H]

A badge from the standard Martin Marsh fake die. Very commonly encountered and very modern. It’s an increasingly common ploy to punch a few numbers or name on a slider to deceive uninformed buyers.

[Stephen]

Thanks Luke, pity to see it being sold and 'guaranteed as original'!

Stephen

[grenadierguardsman]

The jewels look uneven and the font is rounded imho.
Andy

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Thanks Luke, pity to see it being sold and 'guaranteed as original'!

Stephen

Funnily enough that seller is being discussed here: https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=81125

This badge quite succinctly shows the level of his knowledge and unscrupulous sales practices.

[Frank Kelley]

Fifty odd quid, you could buy a real one for less!

Originally Posted by Stephen

I'd of thought this should have sweat holes, the numbered slider is interesting

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/124482055465?ul_noapp=true

Stephen

[Terry Rayner]

I have emailed him three time to find out the maker of one of his Essex buttons, still no reply. I Google Earth his office, out standing location.

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Terry Rayner

I have emailed him three time to find out the maker of one of his Essex buttons, still no reply. I Google Earth his office, out standing location.

From enquiries I an another have made, that is not his office, its another of these 'ghost addresses'.

We believe him still in Kent.

regards

[Luke H]

He regularly doesn’t reply to emails or messages and if he does it’s often after the item enquired about has sold... yet another gripe I have with him.

As Simon says very likely a ghost address as on eBay his business telephone number is still 0208 dialling code identical to when he listed his address as Bromley in Kent. He has taken all address/telephone details down from his website.

Clearly something a little fishy going on, I imagine either customer or money problems as being the reason to utilise a ghost address.

Originally Posted by Stephen

I'd of thought this should have sweat holes, the numbered slider is interesting

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/124482055465?ul_noapp=true

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

Thank you for taking time to show this fake.

I posted on a similar thread recently regarding Irish badges on eBay. Not my area of expertise at all - but as someone who trawls the site daily, and has done since about 2005, there is a common theme: of all the badges advertised, there are just too many pre-partition Irish badges advertised - and all appear fake. As mentioned already, sellers know the real ones are expensive and - increasingly - rare, so make a fast buck.

The numbers made versus the numbers for sale just don't stack up...but I continue to look in hope!

Mark

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by Luke H

He regularly doesn’t reply to emails or messages and if he does it’s often after the item enquired about has sold... yet another gripe I have with him.

As Simon says very likely a ghost address as on eBay his business telephone number is still 0208 dialling code identical to when he listed his address as Bromley in Kent. He has taken all address/telephone details down from his website.

Clearly something a little fishy going on, I imagine either customer or money problems as being the reason to utilise a ghost address.

I’ve been to his house to drop something off rather than post it.

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Mark McClelland-Jones

Hi Stephen,

Thank you for taking time to show this fake.

I posted on a similar thread recently regarding Irish badges on eBay. Not my area of expertise at all - but as someone who trawls the site daily, and has done since about 2005, there is a common theme: of all the badges advertised, there are just too many pre-partition Irish badges advertised - and all appear fake. As mentioned already, sellers know the real ones are expensive and - increasingly - rare, so make a fast buck.

The numbers made versus the numbers for sale just don't stack up...but I continue to look in hope!

Mark

There are actually quite a lot of genuine pre-1922 Irish badges on eBay, mostly infantry but several good cavalry and yeomanry. On occasion there are even some very rare badges listed, e.g. a few months ago a North of Ireland I.Y. badge sold for just £47. To say they all appear fake is very inaccurate.

The Leinster that is the topic of this thread is a very obvious fake which is easily recognisable at a glance from the shape and outline of its plumes and rounded letter ends. 98% of fake Leinster Regiment badges are from this die.

Hi Luke,

You are absolutely correct - I could not agree more. There are plenty of smashing badges on eBay and certainly one or two rarities to be had. Hence my final comment.

To clarify and for accuracy, I am not suggesting they are all fakes - not at all - it's just that there are too many fakes versus real ones. But yes I will continue wading through these and look in hope of that bargain/rarity!

Best wishes,

Mark

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Mark McClelland-Jones

Hi Luke,

You are absolutely correct - I could not agree more. There are plenty of smashing badges on eBay and certainly one or two rarities to be had. Hence my final comment.

To clarify and for accuracy, I am not suggesting they are all fakes - not at all - it's just that there are too many fakes versus real ones. But yes I will continue wading through these and look in hope of that bargain/rarity!

Best wishes,

Mark

Send me a friend request and you’ll be able to see my Martin Marsh fake albums which contain the most prolific pre-1922 Irish repros. Studying and avoiding these will in most cases steer you to the genuine article and be able to spot a dud from a thumbnail pic alone.

That's kind of you, Luke. Request to follow.

Mark