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Old 30-04-08, 07:26 PM
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As I say though, this badge was bought around 10 years back when John did regular lists, so they have been around a while. At least now we notice when a 'rare' badge pops up regularly on eBay. One had to trust in well known sellers alot more then, as less info and pictures were available. I have always had a doubt in my head about this badge as I have not liked the Lion that looks more like a long tailed wolf. We all live and learn. Trouble is 75% of the time we learn too late! Paul.
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Old 30-04-08, 07:32 PM
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thought i would post my tyneside scottish hallmarked badges one marked 1914 the other1915
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I take it the one on the left is the 1914 mark?

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Old 30-04-08, 07:34 PM
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I have a Tyneside Scottish which has the lion inside the tower, the tower halfway up the cross with loops. This is the second pattern.
Also I have a badge similar to Spencers which is a bad strike with loops which look OK, the portcullis is halfway down, but the strike is very bad. I bought it some years ago from Hugh King.
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Old 30-04-08, 07:52 PM
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Yes alan it is ,its by WDand S birmingham, the other is JRG and S birmingham regards alan
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Old 30-04-08, 08:06 PM
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This is the GWF thread on it with a picture of what I consider a good first pattern badge.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...scottish+badge

The GWF members date the demi-lion to 1916.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...scottish+badge

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Old 09-06-08, 03:33 AM
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This one I can post and I can say with certainty that it is an out and out fake.

Alan
A friend living in Newcastle informed me that some character in Birmingham is knocking out these gilded/brass versions at 2 a penny. 2 years ago I bought one of these from our infamous ebay seller - what was annoying, was that the picture he used was of the genuine WM one - what I got was the fake. At the low price I wanted to see whether they were reproducing them in WM now. I haven't seen one yet.
I am still looking for a genuine 3rd pattern if you know of anyone selling one?
- and an officers 1st pattern one - in my dreams of course.....

Rgds, David
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Old 11-06-08, 02:46 AM
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Default Ref Restrikes etc of Tyneside Scottish Patterns

I am starting to get a little concerned about whether what I have for these battalions are ok or not. I have a WM version of the 1st pattern (item1) which I believe is genuine ; 2nd pattern (item2) HM officers (ok with this); 2nd pattern O/R's brooch pin (item3 - now unsure) - but which I believe is genuine : 4th pattern O/R's brooch pin (item4 - now unsure) - but which I believe is genuine : I have done this in 2 parts.

I was not at all worried about items 1, 2, 3 and 4 before - for 5 & 6, I would appreciate knowing whether to chuck them out or not. Now, after reading some of the articles, apart from item 2, I am not at all sure about the rest.
Can you help?

Items are in pairs - front and rear and in order 1st patt, OR's - 1F, 1R ; 2nd patt, Off - 2F, 2R; 2nd patt, O/R's - 3F, 3R.
4, 5, 6 are in the next post

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Old 11-06-08, 02:54 AM
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Default Part 2 of Tyneside Scottish Restrikes etc

Items are in pairs - front and rear and in order 4th patt, OR's - 4F, 4R ; 5th (suspect) - 5F & 5R; 6th (wasn't a suspect before - now is) - 6F & 6R

Advice would be much appreciated.

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Old 12-06-08, 08:46 AM
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To reassure you the first pattern badge looks 100% to me.

Alan
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Old 12-06-08, 09:19 AM
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David,
at a glance, to me, no.5 is the only really obvious dud here. Bad looking lugs & very badly positioned/affixed. Not right,at all.
My own one of these is a very 'similar' strike, etc, that I have not got around to replacing, as yet.
Cheers !
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Old 24-07-08, 04:13 PM
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Default Tyneside Scottish copy or Genuine

Not Sure About this one would appreciate your opinion on this one. Regards Dave
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the badge is a good one nice repair

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Old 25-07-08, 11:50 AM
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Hello David i have looked at the thread Spencer started and i am really non the wiser the badge i have up i picked up for coppers with no lugs and i had it repaired so i am again not sure if its genuine or not {Damed frustrating } i am starting to feel rather disappointed i thought i knew a little about badges but alas it seems i was wrong. best wishes Dave
Dave, There you go. Peter has put you right. If you still want to send me the pics, feel free.
Have just found a pic of my (suspect) and the lugs on this are way out of skew - as mine was not repaired (plus other aspects) the lug placement and fixing was part of the poor quality faking process.
Good luck with the others, David
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Old 25-07-08, 12:45 PM
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Hi David and peter a question for you two. If I remember right the porticullis had to be half-way up (or down) to be OK ?. This one is all the way down.
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Old 25-07-08, 03:33 PM
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Hi Jo, David, and peter, i thought i was on a winner here now i am not sure please look at the pictures because i really do not know. please let me know what you think i do not want to throw a good badge away. regards Dave
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