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Old 22-05-15, 11:56 PM
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Hello Everyone---I recently got this uniform and know very little about Canadian World War One uniforms. The uniform is named to W.H. Latimer. The buttons are Militia I believe. Does anyone know what the patch is ? How would I find out more on Latimer and what is this worth ? Uniform is dated 1915. Thanks for any help---Blue Skies Mark
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Old 23-05-15, 12:30 AM
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Hi 1st Sgt, I can't read the tag. Could you post a close up image?
It appears the patch is only on one sleeve? The 4 (Canadian) Division wore a patch like the one on your tunic, but the devices below the patch are not typically Canadian.
Some British formation signs were made with a system of brigade signs similar to this.
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There was a William Henry Latimer Jr. enlisting as a Captain in the 124th Bn. CEF on Dec. 9th 1915.......could this be him ?????
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The 124th (Governor General's Body Guard) Battalion, CEF was a unit in the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the First World War. Based in Toronto, Ontario, the unit began recruiting in late 1915 in that city. After sailing to England in August 1916, the battalion was redesignated the 124th Pioneer Battalion, CEF.
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Hi 1st Sgt, I can't read the tag. Could you post a close up image?
It appears the patch is only on one sleeve? The 4 (Canadian) Division wore a patch like the one on your tunic, but the devices below the patch are not typically Canadian.
Some British formation signs were made with a system of brigade signs similar to this.
Hello Bill---the tag reads--W.H.Latimer----March 30 1915---Beauchamp & How LTD--97 King St.W. Toronto

I have two other uniforms from the same man--one blue & one red both for the South Alberta Light Horse--button motto SEMPER ALACER (ALWAYS ALERT) I was told that the red uniform is from 1905--1920.One patch has been removed. Does anyone know a value of these uniforms ? Blue Skies Mark
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There was a William Henry Latimer Jr. enlisting as a Captain in the 124th Bn. CEF on Dec. 9th 1915.......could this be him ?????
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The 124th (Governor General's Body Guard) Battalion, CEF was a unit in the Canadian Expeditionary Force during the First World War. Based in Toronto, Ontario, the unit began recruiting in late 1915 in that city. After sailing to England in August 1916, the battalion was redesignated the 124th Pioneer Battalion, CEF.
Hello---This might be the guy as the red coat is marked to the 15th Light Horse (South Alberta Light Horse) the coat is from 1905 to 1920. So He may have changed Units-The coat was made in Toronto--Thanks for the input---Blue Skies Mark
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Old 23-05-15, 06:09 PM
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Hi Mark....I'll go on limb here in saying that the value of such a uniform is based IMHO on the history of who wore this uniform,second his history...did he go overseas...was he in some kind of action.......as such your uniform is worth the amount some collectors are willing to pay.......and lastly the story behind the patch on the sleeve.....
I think you could apply here the 5 W...and H.

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Hello---This might be the guy as the red coat is marked to the 15th Light Horse (South Alberta Light Horse) the coat is from 1905 to 1920. So He may have changed Units-The coat was made in Toronto--Thanks for the input---Blue Skies Mark
Jo's link shows that your man had prior service in the 15th Light Horse and Mississauga Horse.

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Hi Mark....I'll go on limb here in saying that the value of such a uniform is based IMHO on the history of who wore this uniform,second his history...did he go overseas...was he in some kind of action.......as such your uniform is worth the amount some collectors are willing to pay.......and lastly the story behind the patch on the sleeve.....
I think you could apply here the 5 W...and H.

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Hello Jo---all I am looking for is a ball park figure, in your opinion, on the uniforms as I know nothing about the value of Canadian uniforms.
Any help would be great on the matter---Thanks again for all the input---Blue Skies Mark
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Hello Jo---all I am looking for is a ball park figure, in your opinion, on the uniforms as I know nothing about the value of Canadian uniforms.
Any help would be great on the matter---Thanks again for all the input---Blue Skies Mark
Mark....as some say" your guess is as good as mine"...the problem is 1st WW militaria is really not my area of interest or expertise......yes I know about some of the stuff but, that's all.Perhaps someone on a 1st war website might be able to help you.
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Can we see pics of the other uniforms?
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Some additional info re: "William H. Latimer"

http://canadiangreatwarproject.com/s....asp?ID=107575
Much the same info as on his declaration papers, but there are links to mentions of him in the war diary of the 124th Battalion.

If the same W.H. Latimer, he attended University of Toronto and graduated with a B.A. in 1911
http://www.mocavo.com/Torontonensis-...1916/979657/23

And then studied law at Osgoode Hall Law School, class of 1914.
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and then apparently married in 1923 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.c...tor1923p10.htm
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007213-23 William Henry LATIMER, 31, barrister at law, U.S.A., 74 Colin Ave. Toronto, s/o William Henry LATIMER (b. U.S.A.) & Elizabeth Ann JOHNSTON married Dorothy Jean HODGSON, 30, Ontario, 431 Brunswick Ave., widow, d/o Angus MURRAY (b. Ontario) & Barbara GRANT, witn: M.L. ELLIS of Toronto & Gladys JAMES of Brantford, 1 December 1923
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Default More of his uniforms South Albert Light Horse( Canadian)

Hello Again---more of his uniforms Blue uniform and Red uniform. Does anyone have an idea what these are worth ? Please feel free to input on these uniforms. Thanks Mark
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Old 01-06-15, 10:49 PM
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Mark, Can these be confirmed as his? Are they named to him? Eg, are they marked with his name, or is there a tailor's tag with the owners information in the garments?
Pre-1914 tunics are not easy to find, but at the same time the number of collectors is smaller. Values would best be established through auction by a reputable firm.
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Love seeing these tunics. very nice examples.

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