Braising hole/overlay dating

[Paul Spellman]

Hi
I have been looking for a thread without much luck that discussed the date range when the application of overlays (scrolls,crowns etc) were applied to badges without the use of braising holes, if anyone can direct me to that or similar threads it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Paul

[Alan O]

It's a maker practice that was common on 1890s badges onwards and gradually fell into disuse as badge process changes. However you can still find lots of WW2 badges with brasing holes.

[Paul Spellman]

Thanks Alan,
It was a particular thread I was thinking of which had discussed the advancement of techniques in applying overlays rather than the use of braising holes or wire fixings, I think the date was around the 1930's and a particular member with some knowledge of this area had commented. I have a suspicion that the thread had run off on a discussion on a particular badge which makes the finding of if a bit harder.
Paul

[Alan O]

I don't agree with that date. Lambournes were making WW1 badges without overlays in WW1.

[2747andy]

Paul,
trying to date badges by whether or not they do or do not have vent/sweat holes will be like trying to nail blancmange (the pudding not the band) to the wall. As Alan points out it is probably more down to the manufacturers preference than any specific timeline? Vent holes were used right up to the introduction of anodised badges in the 1950's.

Andy

[irish]

This is a question of great interest to myself. I use braising holes as a determinate in badge authenticity. Somewhat simplistic but it has worked well enough so far. It sounds there was overlap in techniques, braising vs no braising? My question is when might non braised overlays first have made there appearance?

Or is it as Andy says "trying to nail Jello to the wall". Currently many badges w/o braising holes have been assigned to my "box o duffers"

Thanks
Jack