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Old 10-06-16, 11:11 PM
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There are bronzed bimetal Cheshire Yeomanry badges, which were painted to stop reflections when they went to war, perhaps these aren't meant to be worn by officers, but by OR's during conflict? In that case, the die cast scroll on the S Staffords badge is odd.
Bronzed OR's RE GviR badges are known, made locally to alleviate temporary shortages of officers badges.
And yes, I'm absolutely sure, to quote Andy Plewa: 10,000% sure, this isn't anything other than a bronze finish.

in 'The Staffords 1881-1978' by G. Rosignoli and Capt. C.J. Whitehouse on p. 21 where Bronze cap and collar badges are described it states: "Brass badges painted brown appeared in due time..." Is the S Staffords badge one of those, 'though bimetal, not solely brass?

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Well all I can hope is that one day you will be 10,000% sure that it wasn't bronzed a few years ago in someone's shed to give the badge a bit more appeal sales wise, easily done, my bottle of toner cost me about £4 and once applied and partially rubbed gives a very authentic aged bronze finish. Similar to the quality of finish that you might find on a badge that Dave C had re-finished after completing a repair/restoration, in short, good enough to fool if that were anyone's intention.
As you mention him Thomas I couldn't begin to imagine the odds of either badge being bronzed in the same shed that spawned the 10,000% dud KRRC badge that Andy landed for himself in a recent online auction.

Good that it was pointed out on the forum, in the hope of avoiding it landing on the buyer's door mat only to disappoint.

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Old 11-06-16, 07:04 PM
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Thanks for your words of wisdom, so fakes then? What to do, clean or destroy?

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Old 11-06-16, 07:10 PM
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Two more, the RASC badge is obviously later than the official dates for long sliders.

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File Type: jpg Dorsetshire long slider reverse.jpg (73.8 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg RASC EviiiR long slider obverse.jpg (75.2 KB, 16 views)
File Type: jpg RASC EviiiR long slider reverse.jpg (65.0 KB, 14 views)
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Old 11-06-16, 08:35 PM
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What do you mean by "the official dates for long sliders" ?
Yes, there is documentary evidence for long ones between 1903 and 1906, there is physical evidence for long ones in the later years of the 1st WW and again in the 1930s for wear on the reintroduced 'side caps' !? They were also used on 'pugaree' badges.
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Old 12-06-16, 05:59 PM
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I meant 1903-1906 as you state. My EviiiR cyphered badge could be construed as evidence of 1930's use of long sliders, if it is not a fake.

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Old 14-06-16, 09:52 PM
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Re: bronzing: Anyone familiar with this: http://border-regiment-forum.com/vie...cd20f5eb51459b Not the most reliable source, but stil...

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Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment

Actual length of "slider" is 50mm from bottom to where it is brazed to the back of the badge. about 45mm from the bend to bottom.

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Old 27-09-16, 06:13 PM
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Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment

Actual length of "slider" is 50mm from bottom to where it is brazed to the back of the badge. about 45mm from the bend to bottom.
Not your favourite design of badge, if memory serves, Nozzer?
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Not your favourite design of badge, if memory serves, Nozzer?
Lol I always felt that they should have gone with the first design..... Hertfordshire Regiment cap badge with a small W/M scroll attached to the bottom "& BEDFORDSHIRE REGT."
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Another one, this time The Norfolk Regiment.

Length of slider is about 47mm

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Here shown next to a badge from the same die, but with a more normal slider.

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Nice addition, Andy.
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Old 03-01-17, 08:47 PM
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Thanks JT

I've had it a while, it was seeing your album again that reminded me to dig it out.

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Queen's Royal West Surrey Regiment - slider 46mm:







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Not the longest of long sliders on these next two badges (42mm each), which begs the question as to where the line between a long slider and an average length slider should be.









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