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Hallmark Date.
Good afternoon.
I think you will find it is 1906-07. They are found wih sponsor's marks to both Dowler and Hobson. Fixings are loops, or blades. Enjoy. S.T. |
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Hi S.T.
I am far from an expert as far as date and makers marks go, just used one I found on the web and it gave me that result. Thanks for correction. Brian |
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Frank
No Victorian examples unfortunately, but would like one. Forgot about this collar. Brian |
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Do Victorian BMR badges even exist?
I dont collect regimental insignia or know much about Natal units, but looking at contemporary collections, I have never seen a BMR badge with a Victorian Crown. According to Sam Foote's write-up in Commando, the BMR formed in 1894 and was the left wing of NMR (formed in 1888). As a wing of the NMR would they not simply have worn NMR insignia. I know the NMR facing colour was brown and the BMR was green, so this may be the only means to distinguish the BMR and NMR pre 1902 when BMR got there own KC badges. If there were BMR victorian badges and someone has them, please post pictures so I could be further enlightened Steven |
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Hello Brian,
I did not take a close look at those marks because I assumed you must have done before you posted the photographs, but, they are sixth cycle Birmingham marks, the date letter "g" is indeed 1906-07, but, this does in no way detract, it is still a good scarce badge. I wonder who it belonged to? Regards again Frank |
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Steven,
In Owen's, no 478 is shown as a bronze QVC slouch hat badge. Iain Quote:
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Hi Iain,
Thanks I must have missed that. I do see it and it must be a unique example! Just hope it is genuine and not something made up by joining a KC BMR title and a QVC. Steven |
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Frank
If you have some BMR Vic could you post them, they must be scarce never seen one. I now regret dropping off collecting badges 15 odd years back when the Vic Badges were available. Regards Brian |
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Hello Brian,
Yes I do have some, I remember posting two or three examples on the ABW forum along with the first QSA that I bought as a boy, a BMR Trooper and one of, I think, only ten men of the regiment to be entitled to the Relief of Ladysmith clasp, for his service in the Composite Regiment, I know Brett has an example so that leaves eight more, I wonder where they are today. I also remember posting a few Carbineers badges there too, I'll have to find the media with those particular photographs, in the mean time, please do go over to the ABW forum and have a look. Victorian BMR are scarce because they never had the numbers of men that the Natal Carbineers had (or the variations in badges! for example, many wartime enlistments into the Natal Carbineers merely wore the pouch badge on the hat for the duration, while others wore the handsome pieces made in Durban and Pietermaritzburg!) unlike the Carbineers and Natal Mounted Rifles, they did not expand the size of the regiment during the Anglo Boer War. Regards Frank Last edited by Frank Kelley; 22-07-14 at 07:23 AM. |
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Hi Brian, this what I have for that period. Regards Andrew
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Hello Iain,
That was British made and worn by all ranks, interestingly, for such a small unit there are at least three differing versions of it, they do normally have a little vertical ring to the reverse of the crown for the slouch hat, like the NMR badges. Regards Frank |
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The British made pre Anglo Boer War bronzed brass slouch hat badge was worn by all ranks, certainly not unique, at least three differing versions exist, moreover, they were die struck in a single piece, so not "joined" in any way!
Last edited by Frank Kelley; 23-07-14 at 07:37 AM. |
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Hi Frank,
I guess they were custom made to order. I only have the KC for both NMR and BMR though I do have BMR L & R collars aswell as the small shoulder title. regards, Iain Quote:
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Hello Iain,
Yes, they would have to have been ordered and indeed, paid for too! Regards Frank |
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Thanks for posting the QVC BMR badges. Good to see my assumptions were unfounded
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