British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > South African Military and Police Insignia > Army

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 20-02-14, 01:56 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
What sort of money should I expect to have to part with for the ILH/KR title these days?
Regards Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Hi Frank,

yes they had an interesting history and background, the siege of course helped.

Did you ever see Brian Conyngham's post on the joint ILH/KR shoulder title award?
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...t=battle+award

This is my own one with 2 types of collars, brass and bi metal.

Attachment 100320

regards, Iain
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 20-02-14, 03:48 PM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Hi Frank,

the last one I saw for sale in SA was for R180 which is GBP10 at the moment, the way the Rand is diving under Zoomer, you'll get it for GBP1 and a few beans just now!

regards, Iain
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 20-02-14, 10:50 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

LOL Iain,
Perhaps if I bought it in South Africa!
Regards Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Hi Frank,

the last one I saw for sale in SA was for R180 which is GBP10 at the moment, the way the Rand is diving under Zoomer, you'll get it for GBP1 and a few beans just now!

regards, Iain
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 20-02-14, 11:13 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

But, I'm not going to!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
LOL Iain,
Perhaps if I bought it in South Africa!
Regards Frank
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 20-02-14, 11:20 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

I want one right now, not in a fortnight!
Were they not the first into Florence?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
But, I'm not going to!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 21-02-14, 02:26 AM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Yes, they were first into Florence, maybe as a compensation for Rome.

Yep, the SAPO still still uses donkey carts to get from Cape Town to Jo'burg.
Not sure why it takes 5 days from Jo'burg to Jo'burg tho'
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 21-02-14, 05:39 AM
Alex Rice Alex Rice is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,750
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Hi Alex,

nice badges, is that the silver & enamel Officer's collar?

Interesting point about the chrome Officer's badge.
Are the bandsmen's badges different to the Piper's badges?

regards, Iain
Hi Iain
Yes, that's an officer's collar.
Not sure if there was a difference between pipers badges and other bandsmen but I think they were the same.
Cheers,
Alex
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 22-02-14, 03:44 PM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
Got one! I think I had a CJ Rhodes moment, "Now, I want it it now!" after making a quick phone call, I've picked it up and I'm very happy with it too!
Enjoy your time down south and my regards to Ladysmith and both Pollux and Castor in particular, I trust they are keeping well, my compliments to them both please Iain, it's been a long time!
Kind regards Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Yes, they were first into Florence, maybe as a compensation for Rome.

Yep, the SAPO still still uses donkey carts to get from Cape Town to Jo'burg.
Not sure why it takes 5 days from Jo'burg to Jo'burg tho'

Last edited by Frank Kelley; 22-02-14 at 04:25 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 02-03-14, 04:03 AM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Hi Frank,

I'm back!

Where did you find a ILH/KR ST so quickly?

Sorry I didn't see your post before I left but here's a pic of The Seige Museum with a replica of a Long Tom, the originals being destroyed by the retreating Boers, and either Caster or Pollux; not sure which!

KR collars 039.jpg

kind regards, Iain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
Hello Iain,
Got one! I think I had a CJ Rhodes moment, "Now, I want it it now!" after making a quick phone call, I've picked it up and I'm very happy with it too!
Enjoy your time down south and my regards to Ladysmith and both Pollux and Castor in particular, I trust they are keeping well, my compliments to them both please Iain, it's been a long time!
Kind regards Frank
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 02-03-14, 08:36 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
You survived then, good!
It is possible to buy almost any badge here after a brief look around, would you like to see it?
Caster and Pollux were the two old howitzer's pressed into use during the awful siege, they stood outside the town hall for years!
Kind regards Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Hi Frank,

I'm back!

Where did you find a ILH/KR ST so quickly?

Sorry I didn't see your post before I left but here's a pic of The Seige Museum with a replica of a Long Tom, the originals being destroyed by the retreating Boers, and either Caster or Pollux; not sure which!

Attachment 101314

kind regards, Iain
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 02-03-14, 09:03 AM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Hi Frank,

yes, I would like to see it.

Caster & Pollux are still there, one of them is in the pic I posted.

kind regards, Iain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
Hello Iain,
You survived then, good!
It is possible to buy almost any badge here after a brief look around, would you like to see it?
Caster and Pollux were the two old howitzer's pressed into use during the awful siege, they stood outside the town hall for years!
Kind regards Frank
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 02-03-14, 09:21 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
Glad you saw them and they are both okay and have not been consigned to the melting pot!
Here is the ILH/KR, as mentioned, which I am pleased with.
Kind regards Frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by iaindh View Post
Hi Frank,

yes, I would like to see it.

Caster & Pollux are still there, one of them is in the pic I posted.

kind regards, Iain
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P1020411.jpg (53.8 KB, 9 views)
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 02-03-14, 09:44 AM
iaindh's Avatar
iaindh iaindh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 1,223
Default

Hi Frank,

very nice! With the full epaulette and 6th SA Armoured Division patch nogal! You can be very pleased.
What search engine do you use when hunting for badges?

It must be very tempting for certain individuals that all the potential scrap metal is there at the roadside

kind regards, Iain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Kelley View Post
Hello Iain,
Glad you saw them and they are both okay and have not been consigned to the melting pot!
Here is the ILH/KR, as mentioned, which I am pleased with.
Kind regards Frank
__________________
C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 02-03-14, 10:09 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
Yes, I am pleased, I bought it from a friend of mine who just collects almost everything when it comes to South Africa, except all the modern stuff.
He collects in particular, GWSA and GEA and he has what I would say is the best collection I am aware of today (bare in mind that I have not seen Peter Digby's collection)
Although, the condition is rather far worse that the pic makes clear though, the fittings from both the title and rank star have actually frayed the reverse of the khaki slip on, it has been well used!
I don't search the internet or use ebay and bid or buy when it comes to badges etc.
I am not sure how much Caster and Pollux would be worth as scrap, a six point three inch howitzer must be quite heavy, but, they are worth far more as what they are, these particular two without price perhaps!
Kind regards Frank
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 02-03-14, 10:47 AM
Frank Kelley's Avatar
Frank Kelley Frank Kelley is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7,562
Default

Hello Iain,
Perhaps I should add, whilst I only go to 1918 with South Africa, I will make an exception with the 6th South African Armoured Division, they did well in Italy, you get the Natal Mounted Rifles wearing similar with their title made in lead during this campaign, which proved to be a very hard one.
Regards again Frank
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:08 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.