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11-04-09, 11:39 PM
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Pilot's Wings
Just curious : I know what an RFC and RAF pilot's wings look like, but does someone "out there" have a photo of a RNAS pilot's wings ? I can't recall ever seeing any. Hope someone can satisfy my curiousity. Thanks Jeff
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12-04-09, 01:12 AM
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Jeff,
RNAS Pilots wore the brass(Gilt) Eagle(basically the standard pattern) in a variety of ways,depending on the Uniform.A small version(above the rank loop) on shoulder boards with the White Uniform,the standard version above the cuff loop on the left sleeve only until 1917,when both sleeves then had Eagles(always facing to the rear) on the Blue Uniform,then the LH sleeve Eagle(facing viewer's right)only on the left breast, above the pocket( & medal ribbons) on the Khaki Uniform (some/many[?] converted to pin-back by local jewellers,so basically the same as a 'sweetheart' conversion here) until merger with RFC to form the RAF in 1918. This then became the 'standard pattern' ,worn initially with a small gilt crown above on both sleeves, & also in the centre of the bullion cap badge(right facing) . The sleeve pattern was also later worn as an RAF Officer's FS type cap badge, etc. Hope this helps ? Cheers ! Steve Last edited by dragonz18; 12-04-09 at 07:10 AM.
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12-04-09, 12:16 PM
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That's a WW2 period Fleet Air Arm Rating pilot.
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12-04-09, 12:35 PM
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Hello gentlemen, a photograph of Gordon Hamilton Burland 1896-1951 in RNAS uniform at Chingford, 1916.
Jo http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7E.../burlandgh.jpg
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13-04-09, 08:29 PM
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RNAS Pilot's wings
Gentlemen. Thank you all for your help and advice on this topic. As a result of your replies, I was prompted to look over some of my old auction catalogues, and eventually struck it lucky with this "find" from a Spinks catalogue for Nov 2003, confirming all that you have said. The wings with the "A" are for attached officers. Obviously those with an "O" are observers. Thanks once again for all your time and trouble on my behalf. Regards. Jeff
RNAS brevets.jpg
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14-04-09, 07:43 AM
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Spink's Wings
Hi again. Not really knowing much about this subject, all I can tell you is what Spinks say re these items : Sorry Paul, I do not know how much they actually fetched, but I do have the pre-sale estimates, these are ;
Lot 340 (the 3X gilt pilot's wings) £180-240 Lot 341 (the 3X gilt observer's wings) £200-250 Lot 342 (the 3X gilt attached officer's wings) £200-250 Apparently, the pilot's wings had three screw fitting-lugs at the rear, the others had two. All I know, sorry. Bill you could well be correct re the RCAF wings, but I guess Spinks experts had some sort of provenance for these. Regards. Jeff
Last edited by Jeff Mc William; 14-04-09 at 09:29 AM.
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11-05-09, 07:53 PM
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RNAS wing prices from 2003
Prices realised for the Spink lots of Nov 2003 were as follows:
Lot 340 sold for £300 Lot 341 sold for £340 Lot 342 sold for £240 You can see a few RNAS bits and pieces at http://www.britairforce.com/rnas_1.htm and http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/britai...naspilot.shtml
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