CAC - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

fearnaught · #1 30-12-17, 04:34 PM

Hi, finally got around to sorting out my Canadian armour, so of course lots of questions. Were there w/m collar badges for the Borden tank badge, or only the bronze ones? Secondly, I have a Roden sterling left hand collar so I assume there is a cap and right hand collar, does anyone have photo's of them. Finally the bottom left hand collar is different from any of the others, does anyone know which cap badge went with this collar, thanks in advance Mike

fearnaught · #2 30-12-17, 04:37 PM

Hi, sorry forgot photo of final collar, Mike

Doug N · #3 30-12-17, 09:02 PM

Mike,

I have never found the Borden Tank collars in anything other than OSD bronze.

Attached pics show pairs to your Roden collar (I think). Mine all have a lugged & struck up reverse with no maker mark. I have never seen a matching cap badge.

Both your 'bottom left' collar & the Roden collars are noted in Brooker's Badges of the Canadian Army. Chris describes them as 'Orphan collars for which no matching cap badges are currently reported.'

fearnaught · #4 30-12-17, 10:42 PM

Hi Doug, thank you for the information, best wishes Mike

Phillip Herring · #5 31-12-17, 02:42 AM

The OSD collar badges would be wartime - only officers had collar badges since they wore service dress. ORs wore battledress, thus, no collar badges.

fearnaught · #6 31-12-17, 10:57 AM

Hi Phillip, the question was raised because the plated set (possibly Gaunt) next to it has plated collars. I've never been sure who wore these badges, the left hand set are usually described as worn at Camp Borden but when were the others worn? and who wore them? The inner workings of the Canadian Army can be quite interesting, especially their reasons for name changing, something I often find baffling. Thank you for the information and apologies for the further questions, best wishes Mike

WJ Miller · #7 05-01-18, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Herring

The OSD collar badges would be wartime - only officers had collar badges since they wore service dress. ORs wore battledress, thus, no collar badges.

Au contrare... SD was worn by 'Other Ranks' in Canada as walking out dress. This photo of L/Cpl Munro catching a bus out of Borden dates to early 1943. Note, both W/M collar badges and cap badge.

I have among Lt. Bill Heil's insignia, his SD collar badges in both OSD and W/M (he was a Sgt. with the GGHG prior to his commission in 1943).